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Old 06-08-2011, 09:24 PM
 
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Don't be so quick to condemn the cops as heavy handed. What if these people had done something horrific like lying on a loan application?
OMG ... your right ... we should call homeland security, the FBI, the CIA ... or even call Eric Holder.

That guy in the video looked like a bad man, can you imagine what the wife was like?
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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You support Obama?

I thought even the democrats gave up on him at this point. I thought I would never see an American President worse than Carter ... I was obviously wrong. Obama makes Carter look pretty good now.
Yeah I support Obama. I vote and will continue to do so. Therefore, while the democrats sometimes irritate me, they don't do so as much as the republicans so until a suitable replacement comes along, they're my choice. Deal with it.

Now, can you address the points I actually made or are you going to remain personal?
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:30 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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I got it wrong? I don’t think so.
I know this will be tough for you but ... think about it
As usual Don, you posted without understanding

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I posted a link because it is an interesting article, happened in California and with no personal input from me. Did you know the federal department of education conducts raids on private homes? The department of education admitted they conducted the raid but didn't explain why. I find that interesting to say the least. Just because another person posted a counter article from a political website means nothing to me. Who said they have the information correct?

.highnlite will take any and every opportunity to try and discredit anything I post no matter the content. He/she is nothing but a troll and a bad one at that.
Highnlite likes facts, not prejudices or beliefs, emulating me would be a good idea.

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Isn't this obama's justice department?

FASCIST!

Definition of FASCISM

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>
Utter nonsense, I do find it quite funny that a somewhat liberal politician is called a fascist, and extreme right political ideology.

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Hilarious! First he's called Communist and now a fascist??? LMAO! Those two go together about as well as oil and water. But according to this definition: When has Obama, the president claimed to be so unamerican, exalted nation or especially race above all else? Oh oh and my favorite.... "forcible suppression of opposition?" When and where has there been a government crackdown on the Tea Party?
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You support Obama?

I thought even the democrats gave up on him at this point. I thought I would never see an American President worse than Carter ... I was obviously wrong. Obama makes Carter look pretty good now.
I would like to see you post specific items that Obama has goofed up. Data supported by facts, otherwise I figure you are faulting him for stuff like the bank bailout, the auto bailout, or Iraq or Afghanistan.

It is interesting to note that the only real cure for recession/depression is massive government spending. Reagan understood this, and tripled the deficit to cure a recession. Obama tried, but was opposed by the Republicans. Anyone with a knowledge of economics knows the stimulus was far to small, and we are seeing the results of that relative lack of stimulus now.

The Republicans have shown they have a greater interest in destroying Obama than in helping to get America back to its feet. I find it appalling that there are those who are affected by the recession who still support the Anti American Republicans.
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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This raid was a ****up and the powers that be will recoil to a defensive posture.

Good post by the way Don. Little close to home for me. The buzz with the local LEO's is quite interesting to say the least.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Well, not specifically.

"He did, though, say that the independent inspector general’s office executes 30 to 35 search warrants each year on issues including bribery, fraud and embezzlement of federal financial aid money."
Defaulting on student loans is not the same as embezzlement or fraud. For any of those acts, she would have had to somehow intercepted the money before it got to the educational institution, or blatantly lied about something material to the disbursement of the loans. I find this whole story extremely sketchy. To be honest I thought that it was from The Onion when I saw the title of the thread. This article is just misleading sensationalism if you ask me.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:54 PM
 
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It's funny all the ranting here about this when it's not true, there was a SWAT raid but the Dept of Education states it was NOT over unpaid student loans....

It was part of a criminal investigation...

Education Department S.W.A.T. team raids California home - BlogPost - The Washington Post

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The Inspector General's Office does not execute search warrants for late loan payments,” the statement said. DoE did not get into the specifics of the case, but says “the offices conducts raids on issues such as bribery, fraud, and embezzlement of federal student aid funds.”
Ya'll can take your tin foil hats off now......
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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It's funny all the ranting here about this when it's not true, there was a SWAT raid but the Dept of Education states it was NOT over unpaid student loans....

It was part of a criminal investigation...

Education Department S.W.A.T. team raids California home - BlogPost - The Washington Post
I'm just ranting about the original article posted and how blatantly misleading it is.

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Mr Wright was later told by Stockton police that the order to send in the SWAT team came from The U.S. Department of Education who were looking for his estranged wife to collect defaulted loan payments. SWAT team launch dawn raid on family home to collect woman's unpaid student loans | Mail Online]
As far as I know, the Department of Education does not have its own SWAT team.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:59 PM
 
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Agree, but if the media doesn't come out with these misleading sensationalist headlines no-one would read them...
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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Here is the Man's initial interview with News 10 who broke the story it was taken down now it is back up again.

WEB ONLY: Stockton man tells his story about search warrant | Video | news10.net
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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The govt is getting way out of control & i expect it to even get worse. Raiding a house over a unpaid student loan is stupid.
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