San Francisco Liberals Outlaw Storing Items in Your Own Garage (San Marino: to rent, houses)

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy

Yeah, I can see how it might be annoying. But my suspicion is that more cars in garages means fewer cars on the street. That means more people can park during the day, which is a boon to local businesses. I suspect that is what is behind this, not some "liberal" desire to control people.

lol! So actually, it's a pro-business measure, meaning a Repub. decision. lol!

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Oh please! Why didn't you pick on San Marino, CA? In that city, all homes must have a two car garage, you cannot park in your driveway, you cannot leave your garage door open, you cannot store anything but your car in your garage. This city has been this way for many years and no one's batted an eye.

Not true. http://www.cityofsanmarino.org/

[ryuns]

Two happening here. Well three.

One is that someone posted something from an idiotic publication that doesn't deserve our attention
Two is that said publication keyed in on a law that is admittedly outdated and likely to be reversed.
Third, even if it were a law, it seems that anytime a city or a state (say, California) talks about passing a law, the level of discussion (mostly) from the right seems to stop at "but that restricts our right!!!111!!". There are a lot of people who seem to be unable or unwilling to comprehend that when you have a huge, dense city, or a huge, dense populous state (especially one, for instance, without a ton of rainfall and with geography that lends itself to poor air quality), sometimes you need laws that prevent people's actions from sullying common resources, whether it's the air, streetside parking, or noise. No, not all of these types laws need to get passed. For instance, I personally think we're heading too far down the road of restricting smoking in a lot of places. But we don't need to lose our minds about our freedoms--we need to have a discussion that weighs the costs and benefits of a given proposal and decide from there.

But then again, Fox News has a lot more ears than NPR does, so I'm probably dreamin'.

[DinsdalePirahna]

conservative news groups are so amusing. Rile up the masses. git yer guns and shoot them thar liberals that are bringing the muslim, socialist, gay agenda to 'Merica.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by ryuns

Two happening here. Well three.

One is that someone posted something from an idiotic publication that doesn't deserve our attention
Two is that said publication keyed in on a law that is admittedly outdated and likely to be reversed.
Third, even if it were a law, it seems that anytime a city or a state (say, California) talks about passing a law, the level of discussion (mostly) from the right seems to stop at "but that restricts our right!!!111!!". There are a lot of people who seem to be unable or unwilling to comprehend that when you have a huge, dense city, or a huge, dense populous state (especially one, for instance, without a ton of rainfall and with geography that lends itself to poor air quality), sometimes you need laws that prevent people's actions from sullying common resources, whether it's the air, streetside parking, or noise. No, not all of these types laws need to get passed. For instance, I personally think we're heading too far down the road of restricting smoking in a lot of places. But we don't need to lose our minds about our freedoms--we need to have a discussion that weighs the costs and benefits of a given proposal and decide from there.

But then again, Fox News has a lot more ears than NPR does, so I'm probably dreamin'.

^^^This is what needs to be understood.

Rural life is much different than urban life. Thus, different laws need to address the different behaviors that occur. Folks out in the sticks don't pose nearly the level of disruption by their actions to others in the vicinity as those in the city. Yet all too often it appears it is those very people out in the boonies that spend inordinate energy commenting on the horror of "liberal" laws imposed on the poor denizens downtown, even though these don't affect them, OR it's narcissistic people who just can't handle abiding by laws made necessary by the shear volume of humans piled on top of each other in town. Sorry kids, but y'all would end up killing each other if we went full Somalia (or ultimate libertarian - take your pick) in the city (that is, no government).

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Not true.

City of San Marino, CA - Home Page

Nevertheless, San Marino does have a reputation for stringent code enforcement. For example, you can't park your car on the driveway/street for more than 48 hours. Each home must have a 2-car garage available for automobile storage only. Garages may not be converted to living quarters nor used for storage of non-household related items. Cars should be placed in garages at night.

http://www.ci.san-marino.ca.us/city_ordinances.htm

Articles about San Marino Ca Ordinances - Los Angeles Times

The city explicitly states that their codes are to protect and preserve property values. And yes, it's traditionally been a politically conservative, affluent community (I've heard that the per capita income exceeds that of Beverly Hills). I've asked if the demographic changes over the years (it's now just over 50% Asian) has had any effect on the code ordinance regime, and the answer is no.

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by silverkris

Nevertheless, San Marino does have a reputation for stringent code enforcement. For example, you can't park your car on the driveway/street for more than 48 hours. Each home must have a 2-car garage available for automobile storage only. Garages may not be converted to living quarters nor used for storage of non-household related items. Cars should be placed in garages at night.

And yes, it's traditionally been a politically conservative, affluent community

Now wait a minute, Rochester. According to the opening article by that august news body American Overlook, codes such as these are the specialty of libruls and demmacrats. Are you suggesting that wealthy, conservative Republican types are willing to embrace these types of ordinances in order to protect their investments and keep their community orderly?

Oh, say it ain't so, Joe!

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by silverkris

Nevertheless, San Marino does have a reputation for stringent code enforcement. For example, you can't park your car on the driveway/street for more than 48 hours. Each home must have a 2-car garage available for automobile storage only. Garages may not be converted to living quarters nor used for storage of non-household related items. Cars should be placed in garages at night.

http://www.ci.san-marino.ca.us/city_ordinances.htm

Articles about San Marino Ca Ordinances - Los Angeles Times

The city explicitly states that their codes are to protect and preserve property values. And yes, it's traditionally been a politically conservative, affluent community (I've heard that the per capita income exceeds that of Beverly Hills). I've asked if the demographic changes over the years (it's now just over 50% Asian) has had any effect on the code ordinance regime, and the answer is no.

Since San Marino now is over 50% Asian, Harrier would expect to see a low dog population within the city limits.

[NorCal Dude]

This is a good law. I hate trashy people who park cars on the street and use a garage as a storage unit.

Even worse, people who convert garages into bed rooms and studio rentals.

If people were not so trashy there would be no need for this law.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by silverkris

San Marino does have a reputation for stringent code enforcement. The city explicitly states that their codes are to protect and preserve property values. I've asked if the demographic changes over the years (it's now just over 50% Asian) has had any effect on the code ordinance regime, and the answer is no.

One of the reasons (besides the top ranked school system) that so many Asians have moved there.

And yes, it's traditionally been a politically conservative, affluent community.

Which punches a hole in the OPs theory...