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Old 02-15-2014, 07:34 PM
 
Location: California
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Are Californians worst off than the rest of the country when it comes to pollution? Especially the middle and lower class Californians in Los Angeles that can not afford to stay in the hills. Is the pollution level warranted enough in Los Angeles and elsewhere that it is an illogical place to reside? Does the health risk to living in these cities out weight the benefits?




Deadliest Air Pollution In U.S.: 10 Worst Cities (PHOTOS)

The huffington post article is an outlier in listing Phoenix AZ in top 10 deadliest air pollution.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-me...#axzz2tRtZeXH9


American Lung Association State of the Air 2013 - Most Polluted Cities




Most polluted US cities by short-term particulate matter
1
Bakersfield-Delano, CA
2
Fresno-Madera, CA
3
Hanford-Corcoran, CA
4
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA
5
Modesto, CA
6
Salt Lake City-Ogden-Clearfield, UT
7
Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA
8
Merced, CA
9
Fairbanks, AK
10
Logan, UT-ID

Most polluted US cities by ozone levels
1
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA
2
Visalia-Porterville, CA
3
Bakersfield-Delano, CA
4
Fresno-Madera, CA
5
Hanford-Corcoran, CA
6
Sacramento—Arden-Arcade—Yuba City, CA-NV
7
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX
8
Dallas-Fort Worth, TX
9
Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV
10
El Centro, CA

Most polluted US cities by year-round particulate matter
1
Bakersfield-Delano, CA

2
Merced, CA
3
Fresno-Madera, CA
4
Hanford-Corcoran, CA
5
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA
6
Modesto, CA
7
Visalia-Porterville, CA
8
Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA
9
El Centro, CA
10
Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN

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Old 02-15-2014, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Um, isn't Beverly Hills in the lowlands? As far as I know, we have not yet banished the poor people alone to places with pollution.

It's a personal choice. If the air bothers you, move.
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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You need to live higher than the hills to avoid the stuff during a typical inversion in the basin/valleys. Just ask anyone in Sherman Oaks or Woodland Hills.
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:13 PM
 
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based on the OP's list and common perception, parts of SoCal are the worst off. The rest of the state is doing fine
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:17 PM
 
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The central valley is terrible. Lived my whole life there until we moved out of state. The difference in air quality is amazing.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:16 PM
 
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based on the OP's list and common perception, parts of SoCal are the worst off. The rest of the state is doing fine
I think you had better go back and re-read the list if you think that.
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Old 02-20-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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When I was driving into Bakersfield for the first time ever I was confused. From far away I just seen this orange/yellow/brown haze way up ahead. As I got closer it disappeared. Then as I got through Bakersfield and looked in my rear view mirror the haze returned. I only drove through and didn't have any breathing problems but living there I'm thinking maybe the residents do, or they are immune to it by now.

Wouldn't stop me from living there though, beats the state I live in now but that's not saying much.
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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When I was driving into Bakersfield for the first time ever I was confused. From far away I just seen this orange/yellow/brown haze way up ahead. As I got closer it disappeared. Then as I got through Bakersfield and looked in my rear view mirror the haze returned. I only drove through and didn't have any breathing problems but living there I'm thinking maybe the residents do, or they are immune to it by now.

Wouldn't stop me from living there though, beats the state I live in now but that's not saying much.
Well, you know, if you really want that cheap ranch house and a few acres, you adapt.

"Can't trust air ya can't see!"


But, there appears to be hope. Or, "It's bad, but it was way worse not long ago."
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Bakersfield's unhealthy ozone days have dropped 44 percent since from the Lung Association's 1996-1998 data.
Bakersfield pollution again ranked nation's worst - BakersfieldCalifornian.com
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Oroville, California
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But, there appears to be hope. Or, "It's bad, but it was way worse not long ago."
The ozone levels have dropped quite a lot the past two decades in the Central Valley. Better smog controls on newer cars. That's even with the population growing so much. Imagine what it would be like if it had grown at a more moderate rate (like the national average) instead of doubling the last 30 years.
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