Can someone explain the heating culture in California? (Los Angeles, San Diego: 2014, motels)

[nei]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

60s is fairly cool for an inside temperature, it would require a sweater/maybe a light jacket depending on your sensitivity to the cold.

Well yes. I assumed people would wear those in the cooler months. I was wearing a sweater most of the time in San Francisco, rarely took it off. Wearing one now, too.

I think 75F is an optimal inside temperature.

Maybe in summer, in winter that's an enormous waste of heat.

[skyegirl]

Originally Posted by nei

60s isn't normal inside? Maybe low 60s, but otherwise.

No, it's not normal on the east coast. I keep my house in SC between 70-72 in the winter. It's 52 outside right now at 7:45 pm, my furnace is set at 72. I would be as uncomfortable as the OP if it was 50's out and no heat on inside businesses/restaurants, just sayin'.

[nei]

Plenty of people heat their homes to the 60s on this part of the east coast

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by nei

Plenty of people heat their homes to the 60s on this part of the east coast

They do, but because they want to save money.

Anyways, here in Miami my room temperature is 79 F, and that's with no heat or AC. Just sun during the day, and appliances and lights (generating heat) right now.

[nei]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

They do, but because they want to save money.

70s feels too warm in the winter, and if you're going in and out you have deal with taking off layers fast or you'll sweat.

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by nei

70s feels too warm in the winter, and if you're going in and out you have deal with taking off layers fast or you'll sweat.

Eh, maybe to you. There is no way to settle debate. I'll just say that in a mid 60s room, I will feel more comfortable with a jacket than without a jacket. Even if I came from a cold outside, and I should know cold, my family is back in Boston - your neck of the woods.

In fact, it feels especially cold if I come from a cold outside since my body craves heat more probably because I'm constantly cold and desperately crave to warm up. When I go to the Northeast or Midwest on business in the winter, I set the hotel thermostat to 80. Of course I wouldn't do that in somebody's house because that would waste a lot of energy and their money.

[nei]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

Eh, maybe to you. There is no way to settle debate. I'll just say that in a mid 60s room, I will feel more comfortable with a jacket than without a jacket. Even if I came from a cold outside, and I should know cold, my family is back in Boston - your neck of the woods.

I would, top. Or at least a sweater. But why would that mean it's too cold?

When I go to the Northeast or Midwest on business in the winter, I set the hotel thermostat to 80. Of course I wouldn't do that in somebody's house because that would waste a lot of energy and their money.

Yikes. The cheap hotel I was in in San Francisco had no room thermostat — my room was in the mid 70s. I opened the windows. Hot room temperatures feel worse in the winter, air feels drier and stuffier than say high 70s inside with a breeze going through and fans.

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by nei

Yikes. The cheap hotel I was in in San Francisco had no room thermostat — my room was in the mid 70s. I opened the windows. Hot room temperatures feel worse in the winter, air feels drier and stuffier than say high 70s inside with a breeze going through and fans.

I guess I don't consider 70s to be "hot room temperatures". Here in Miami, if daytime highs fall in the mid or low 70s, we call that a 'cold snap.'

I try to AC my townhouse here as little as possible. I actually have two AC units, one for the first floor, and another for the second floor. In the summer, I will AC during the day, and allow natural air at night, but pretty much my inside room temperature throughout the year hovers around 80 F. And that to me is comfortable though 75F would be ideal. At 70F I'm already cold, and will wear a sweater.

I guess for people in colder climates, 70s can feel to be a "hot room temperature".

[nei]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

I guess I don't consider 70s to be "hot room temperatures". Here in Miami, if daytime highs fall in the mid or low 70s, we call that a 'cold snap.'

I try to AC my townhouse here as little as possible. I actually have two AC units, one for the first floor, and another for the second floor. In the summer, I will AC during the day, and allow natural air at night, but pretty much my inside room temperature throughout the year hovers around 80 F. And that to me is comfortable though 75F would be ideal. At 70F I'm already cold, and will wear a sweater.

I guess for people in colder climates, 70s can feel to be a "hot room temperature".

I actually don't own an A/C, my room is typically in the high 70s in the summer maybe a bit hotter midday and cooler by early morning, though it's warmer than my ideal it's still tolerable. But my temperature preferences and dressing choices change with the seasons. Right now, mid 70s would feel like a hot room temperature to me and because heat is dry, it would feel dry and stuffy to me. I'd probably do the same as you A/C-wise if I lived in Miami, maybe slightly more A/C, dunno really living in a place where I often get cooler inside summer temperatures without A/C.

I met someone from Miami who claimed you didn't A/C everyday in the summer there. He was living in Portland, Oregon for the summer. It was a cool summer day when I visited him in early July, indoor temperature dropped into the high 60s — so he turned on the heat. I was rather surprised, you sound like him.

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by nei

I met someone from Miami who claimed you didn't A/C everyday in the summer there. He was living in Portland, Oregon for the summer. It was a cool summer day when I visited him in early July, indoor temperature dropped into the high 60s — so he turned on the heat. I was rather surprised, you sound like him.

There are people who AC everyday of the year here, and some who don't AC at all. It partly depends on where you live.

You live in a penthouse on the 50th floor with windows opening the ocean - You don't need to AC even in the summer. The ocean breezes are quite nice, even when it's 90s.

But, for those of us who don't live in such conditions, my townhouse for example is obviously ground to second floor, then even I need to AC.

In July, we won't see even see mornings in the 60s. our record low for July is 66 F, and our average low for July is 78 F. So I don't know how he gets his indoors to the high 60s, he must be ACing, or his room is in a building that is climate controlled.

Edit:

Oh that was in Portland, the story? Not in Miami?