Proposition 63 -- California's Ammo Grab (San Francisco, Sacramento: crimes, school, tax)

[cyberfx1024]

Originally Posted by max210

My guns identify as illegal aliens, will California politicians protect them?

My guns do as well. They will not recognize the crap coming out of Sacramento at all. I am a sanctuary household.

[Listener2307]

Originally Posted by Javacoffee

Too many people are not aware of Prop 63 (at least none that Ive talked to lately). I cannot believe this was voted in by Americans. My husband and I are considering joining a gun club and learning how to shoot just so we can purchase some firearms. We also can't believe this hasn't been headline news.

Proposition 63 makes gun owners get a license before buying ammo. The cost of that permit will be $50 for four years. (until California decides to up it to $200 in a year or two).

Gun owners will be forced to go through a background check every time they purchase a box of ammo. They must pay $1 for that check.

No one will be allowed to bring ammo in from another state. If caught doing so he will be prosecuted and charged with a crime.

Walmart is considering pulling their gun section out of its Californian stores rather than comply with the extra paperwork and demands.

What is the NRA supposed to do when people vote away their own rights?!

Read it for yourself.

California gun owners stock up on ammunition ahead of new regulations | The Sacramento Bee

My own feeling is that a lot of this should be taken out of the hands of the states.

That would call for a change to The Constitution, I think, with the Second Amendment being made stronger in some areas.
I take a little heat from people when I propose that semi-automatic weapons should not be sold to the general public, but I believe that, too, should be taken out of the hands of the states.

It would take a change to The Second Amendment to get it all straightened out, though. Otherwise states are going to find ever more clever ways to infringe upon our American right to keep and bear...

[M3 Mitch]

Originally Posted by Javacoffee

Our children, grandchildren, parents (elderly) and siblings are all in NY. If we leave NY, we leave everything we love. It's not as easy as people think to just up and move to another state.

We're supposed to be free in America. We're not. Not when our neighbors (representatives) can tell us how to live, and then punish us for not obeying.

You are not responsible for their bad decisions on a place to live. I was similar with the Atlanta, Georgia area. I beat feet to the West. Anyone who wanted to come with me could (one cousin did).

NY is not much freer than North Korea. Ugh.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Listener2307

My own feeling is that a lot of this should be taken out of the hands of the states.

That would call for a change to The Constitution, I think, with the Second Amendment being made stronger in some areas.
I take a little heat from people when I propose that semi-automatic weapons should not be sold to the general public, but I believe that, too, should be taken out of the hands of the states.

It would take a change to The Second Amendment to get it all straightened out, though. Otherwise states are going to find ever more clever ways to infringe upon our American right to keep and bear...

It would take a law suit that would go to the Supreme Court to have any chance of over turning the laws CA now has in place.

[Axxlrod]

Originally Posted by Javacoffee

Too many people are not aware of Prop 63 (at least none that Ive talked to lately). I cannot believe this was voted in by Americans. My husband and I are considering joining a gun club and learning how to shoot just so we can purchase some firearms. We also can't believe this hasn't been headline news.

Proposition 63 makes gun owners get a license before buying ammo. The cost of that permit will be $50 for four years. (until California decides to up it to $200 in a year or two).

Gun owners will be forced to go through a background check every time they purchase a box of ammo. They must pay $1 for that check.

No one will be allowed to bring ammo in from another state. If caught doing so he will be prosecuted and charged with a crime.

Walmart is considering pulling their gun section out of its Californian stores rather than comply with the extra paperwork and demands.

What is the NRA supposed to do when people vote away their own rights?!

Read it for yourself.

California gun owners stock up on ammunition ahead of new regulations | The Sacramento Bee

You live in CA. The ultimate goal of the liberals that run this state is to eliminate, by any way necessary, all the guns in CA. They know they can't just ban them, due to that pesky 2nd Amendment that they hate so much. So they resort to these ridiculous laws that try to make gun ownership a huge burden and pain in the butt. They hope that people will get tired and frustrated with having to jump thru all the stupid hoops just to be a gun owner, and just say forget it, and get rid of their guns.

[Electrician4you]

Originally Posted by Javacoffee

What makes you assume we live in California? We're actually 1000s of miles east of it. We never would have voted for anyone who would support that legislation.

I assumed only because your post wording reads as if you're in California and you're listing in a California forum. It reads exactly like a post from a clueless Californian who wants to get into guns because of the "cool" factor.

[Javacoffee]

Originally Posted by Electrician4you

I assumed only because your post wording reads as if you're in California and you're listing in a California forum. It reads exactly like a post from a clueless Californian who wants to get into guns because of the "cool" factor.

Do you know what they say about people who assume too much?

I posted it in the California section because that's where it belongs. Where else would someone post a topic about California law,,, in the Montana section?

[NHDave]

Originally Posted by Javacoffee

Do you know what they say about people who assume too much?

I posted it in the California section because that's where it belongs. Where else would someone post a topic about California law,,, in the Montana section?

To be fair you didn't post it here. You posted it in the guns and hunting forum, it was moved here by a mod.

[payutenyodagimas]

if guns/ammos are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns.


so if they outlaw rifles (consider it banned/outlawed already with all the restrictions they passed), only the outlaws will have rifles. and that should have scared the legislators

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Make your own ammo.