Brawl over auto emissions begins between Calif. and the new federal gov. (Fresno: construction, live)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

But driving an EV still makes more pollutants that a horse and buggy. So then, what do you say to the hardcore environmentalists who want EV drivers to trade in their brake and tire dust creator for a horse and buggy?

Great response, you clearly were unaware of regenerative braking systems in EV's weren't you?

[KC6ZLV]

Originally Posted by CrownVic95

As predictable as the sunrise....a vigorous defense of engineering lunacy in the very next post.

Your post is nothing more than opinion. Because you personally don't like, or agree with something, doesn't mean there is a problem with it.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by sav858

Great response, you clearly were unaware of regenerative braking systems in EV's weren't you?

You are correct the braking does not add to pollution.

However the source of the vast majority of our Electricity does as the electricity is produced. Electric cars take electricity and that means more must be produced as it does not come out of thin air. More pollution from those electrical generating plants.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by expatCA

You are correct the braking does not add to pollution.

However the source of the vast majority of our Electricity does as the electricity is produced. Electric cars take electricity and that means more must be produced as it does not come out of thin air. More pollution from those electrical generating plants.

And more and more of our electricity comes from clean and/or renewable sources every year. Problem solved.

[CrownVic95]

Originally Posted by expatCA

You are correct the braking does not add to pollution.

However the source of the vast majority of our Electricity does as the electricity is produced. Electric cars take electricity and that means more must be produced as it does not come out of thin air. More pollution from those electrical generating plants.

Indeed, and it is not as though regenerative braking does all the braking.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by sav858

Great response, you clearly were unaware of regenerative braking systems in EV's weren't you?

In other words, you're asking me if I'm aware that torque from an engine or motor can be transmitted via a flywheel, through a gearbox, to the wheels, and vice versa? Is that what you're asking me?

[Exitus Acta Probat]

BTW, this is how real drivers engine-brake without regenerative brakes doing it for us -- it's called heel-toe:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhuLnE6iJSc

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

In other words, you're asking me if I'm aware that torque from an engine or motor can be transmitted via a flywheel, through a gearbox, to the wheels, and vice versa? Is that what you're asking me?

No. You didn't seem aware of regenerative braking systems in EV's that reduce wear and tear on brake pads compared to regular cars. I was simply pointing that out since you seem overly concerned about brake pad dust. You seem rather desperate in trying to show how EV's are polluters as well or whatever.

FYI "zero-emissions" refer to TAILPIPE emissions so your point about brake pad dust is irrelevant.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by sav858

And more and more of our electricity comes from clean and/or renewable sources every year. Problem solved.

Not that much at this point. You may find this interesting

Environmental Article - Pollution-Free Energy Sources - Energy Production Byproducts

I am in favor of such sources of energy, but if a mass exodus to electric cars occurred, the amount of electricity needed would expand pollution beyond any balance pollution free sources could handle. In time, es, but in between it might not be that good.

The next problem is the distance you can drive. "If" you could get to work and back you would need a second one to go anywhere else as it takes time to recharge. Then you would be limited in driving distance. That means a second gas driven car would be necessary. Personally I lean more towards Hybrids as they can offer a balance.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Not that much at this point. You may find this interesting

Environmental Article - Pollution-Free Energy Sources - Energy Production Byproducts

I am in favor of such sources of energy, but if a mass exodus to electric cars occurred, the amount of electricity needed would expand pollution beyond any balance pollution free sources could handle. In time, es, but in between it might not be that good.

The next problem is the distance you can drive. "If" you could get to work and back you would need a second one to go anywhere else as it takes time to recharge. Then you would be limited in driving distance. That means a second gas driven car would be necessary. Personally I lean more towards Hybrids as they can offer a balance.

22 -25% is a pretty significant amount and its share is only going to get larger.

A mass exodus to electric cars is highly unlikely. I think you're really reaching here is the whole power generation angle.