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Old 06-04-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Way to go Yorba Linda

Yorba Linda passes measure supporting Arizona illegal-immigration law | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times
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Old 06-04-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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Yorba Linda and Costa Mesa are now my two favorite cities in OC.
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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OC Register has a story about Orange considering the same.
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I don't blame them. The people there obviously agree with the law and feel that Arizona is being unfairly ostracized.

And I have to be honest, aside from the possible racial profiling that might occur because of this law, I applaud Arizona for at least trying to do something about the problem of illegal immigration.

However, what I don't understand is how stopping folks in cities is going to have any effect of newbies crossing over? I mean, if the point is to seal the border, shouldnt the focus of this law be on the border?

Just wondering-but I totally agree that we MUST stem the tide of Illegals crossing into the US. Its gone on for far too long.
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:37 PM
 
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I don't blame them. The people there obviously agree with the law and feel that Arizona is being unfairly ostracized.

And I have to be honest, aside from the possible racial profiling that might occur because of this law, I applaud Arizona for at least trying to do something about the problem of illegal immigration.

However, what I don't understand is how stopping folks in cities is going to have any effect of newbies crossing over? I mean, if the point is to seal the border, shouldnt the focus of this law be on the border?

Just wondering-but I totally agree that we MUST stem the tide of Illegals crossing into the US. Its gone on for far too long.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. I don't think this causes racial profiling though. It's only obvious since the majority of our illegal immigrants come from Mexico that Mexicans will be the most likely to be questioned regarding such.

I think it takes more than just this law to stop the influx of illegal immigrants. This law does need the border to be more secured also. You pointed out that with only this law, how does it stop the new illegal immigrants from coming? It doesn't, I guess it tries to dissuade the new ones from coming altogether.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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It is not surprising that the few towns in California taking a pro-Arizona law position happen to be in Orange county [the only coastal county in California to vote Republican]. Always out of sync with the rest of the state, the old white people [who emigrated to California from the Midwest & South] are finally dying off
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:44 PM
 
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It is not surprising that the few towns in California taking a pro-Arizona law position happen to be in Orange county [the only coastal county in California to vote Republican]. Always out of sync with the rest of the state, the old white people [who emigrated to California from the Midwest & South] are finally dying off
You're just as ridiculous as the people who want our city councils to vote on boycotting Arizona. This should be the norm in our society to support the new Arizona law. How can a country survive if we allow non-citizens to just invade it? We are not protecting our country but of course it's a bad thing to do that. Yes, the last sentence was sarcasm.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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You're just as ridiculous as the people who want our city councils to vote on boycotting Arizona. This should be the norm in our society to support the new Arizona law. How can a country survive if we allow non-citizens to just invade it? We are not protecting our country but of course it's a bad thing to do that. Yes, the last sentence was sarcasm.
The Arizona law has nothing to do with securing the border [which needs to be a priority] but rather is a major insult to hispanic Americans and why so many cities in California and elsewhere are boycotting Arizona. It is simplistic and a distortion to view the Arizona law as an effective means to control illegal immigration. And my last sentence was not sarcasm.
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Old 06-05-2010, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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You're just as ridiculous as the people who want our city councils to vote on boycotting Arizona. This should be the norm in our society to support the new Arizona law.
You know if they are like border patrol where they ask everybody, that is one thing. The police are going to ask someone who "looks" illegal. That would be people like me-even though I am not hispanic. Most hispanic folks seem to tell the difference, but many other folks just assume I am hispanic, because I am brown skinned.

I think most will be singing a different tune if the majority also faced the same possibility of being thrown in jail if they didn't carry the right form of id. Cries of big govt and communism/socialism and massive protests will probably erupt . But as we have seen in history, if you can separate out a minority and the majority is comfortable it won't affect them, they pretty much go along with any atrocious action. The usual if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear argument-well I am sure plenty of dictatorships used that argument too.Starts off simple and then history is filled with example what happens .

There are tons of laws against hiring illegals. I worked in a field filled with immigrnats-the legal kind. They all had their papers -of course now the jobs moved to another country. But why can't the govt enforce the same laws there? Because then people can get arrested-the majority. People like bernard kerik who was almost nominated to Homeland secuirty , before it was discovered he hired an illegal immigrant as a nanny I think? I do know quite a few who gripe about the illegals and then have no qualms hiring them to do yard work or cleaning their homes either. They are breaking the same law too-why not go after them?? What use is this discriminatory law, if you can't even enforce existing laws.
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Old 06-05-2010, 12:23 AM
 
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I think most will be singing a different tune if the majority also faced the same possibility of being thrown in jail if they didn't carry the right form of id.
I don't leave home without ID, namely my drivers license. Why don't you? That's all anyone in Arizona needs on them to be presumed to be here legally under this law.
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