President Suggests he might pull ICE agents from Sanctuary States? (San Jose: home, job openings)

[shooting4life]

I don’t think our democrat overlords really now what life will be like if we stop enforcing the rule of law. If anyone ever wonders what keeps wages down for lower income individuals it is the unfettered importation of cheap and illegal labor. How in one breath the Democrats talk about raining minimum wage to $15 an hour and in the next day we need more no and low skill illegal workers is beyond me.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

I don’t think our democrat overlords really now what life will be like if we stop enforcing the rule of law. If anyone ever wonders what keeps wages down for lower income individuals it is the unfettered importation of cheap and illegal labor. How in one breath the Democrats talk about raining minimum wage to $15 an hour and in the next day we need more no and low skill illegal workers is beyond me.

I'll link it again ... California growers are in trouble with ICE chasing away their workers. You can hate it all you want, but citizens arent taking the work.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/cali...on-audits.html

[Finper]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

That’s not how the government works.

I can complain that the money the state takes from me goes towards things I don’t like and not towards things I do like and then decide not to pay my taxes.

Exactly every day I wish for pension reform but it never happens. I just have to keep paying more of my hard earned money in taxes to those fat pensions

[V8 Vega]

Originally Posted by wac_432

Cool, let's all stop paying federal taxes then. California funds the Federal Government, unlike those "welfare states" like Indiana, Texas, and Florida, who need government handouts and drive the deficit.

Our state government is in the black. We pay $1.50 in federal taxes for every $1.00 in federal money that flows in. They can stop their unwanted services, and we can pay our own way much cheaper. Good luck to them and their exploding debt.

Rapidly approaching a trillion dollars in pension liability.

[BeauCharles]

Originally Posted by wac_432

Cool, let's all stop paying federal taxes then. California funds the Federal Government, unlike those "welfare states" like Indiana, Texas, and Florida, who need government handouts and drive the deficit.

Our state government is in the black. We pay $1.50 in federal taxes for every $1.00 in federal money that flows in. They can stop their unwanted services, and we can pay our own way much cheaper. Good luck to them and their exploding debt.

Actually, we're just barely a donor state. We get 99 cents from the federal government for every dollar sent to DC. (per the California Legislative Analyst's Office as of 2017). For all intents and purposes close enough to be called even.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

Rapidly approaching a trillion dollars in pension liability.

Of course the dollar amount means nothing except in relation to revenue and revenue potential. But your erudite economics mind knew that, right vega?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by BeauCharles

Actually, we're just barely a donor state. We get 99 cents from the federal government for every dollar sent to DC. (per the California Legislative Analyst's Office as of 2017). For all intents and purposes close enough to be called even.

Actually, it changes from year to year. Some years 1% difference ... other years 23% or so ... oh, am I repeating myself?

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I'll link it again ... California growers are in trouble with ICE chasing away their workers. You can hate it all you want, but citizens arent taking the work.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/cali...on-audits.html

I personally there are two reasons, the market hasn't, doesn't want to adjust because, well why the hell would I pay a worker more, I've been paying peanuts for years!

The other one is psychological, everyone knows this is "*****" work that only Mexicans do. It's engrained in everyone's mind.

[BeauCharles]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Actually, it changes from year to year. Some years 1% difference ... other years 23% or so ... oh, am I repeating myself?

I hear that happens as one gets older.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by BeauCharles

I hear that happens as one gets older.

It does with many. It also happens when posters don't read the thread and need to have information covered previously repeated ... see post #20, for instance