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Old 04-15-2018, 10:49 PM
 
Location: In Your Head
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Ah yes. The Independent State of Southern California. Doesn’t that have a nice ring to it? Maybe not.
Should be called Northern Baja California.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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So, there would be no political problems in the different regions? No special interest groups? No corruption? No taxes?

Let's picture it. Pick one and tell me how and why, specifically, it would run better? And how would things get paid for? How would it be governed? How would utilities be provided? How would amenities be paid for like roads and infrastructure? How would schools be funded?
The same way it would be in other States about the same size as the new States.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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California should just vote to join Mexico. That's what will eventually happen anyway.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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The same way it would be in other States about the same size as the new States.
What new states? The newest states are Alaska and Hawaii.

Could you be more specific about how each of the California new 3 states would be run? How would they create revenue? How would they fund schools? How would they pay for infrastructure? Police? Fire fighters? And how would they do this differently enough to justify splitting off from the rest of the state? And save everyone money? And why everyone within that new state would get along beautifully, with no partisan or special interest problems?

Yeah, reality bites.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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Should be called Northern Baja California.
Baja in Mexico is actually two states, north and south.

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What new states? The newest states are Alaska and Hawaii.

Could you be more specific about how each of the California new 3 states would be run? How would they create revenue? How would they fund schools? How would they pay for infrastructure? Police? Fire fighters? And how would they do this differently enough to justify splitting off from the rest of the state? And save everyone money? And why everyone within that new state would get along beautifully, with no partisan or special interest problems?

Yeah, reality bites.
My new state of SoCal will not set aside $50 million to pay for legal services for illegal aliens. And maybe provide sanctuary to birds and thats about it.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Baja in Mexico is actually two states, north and south.



My new state of SoCal will not set aside $50 million to pay for legal services for illegal aliens. And maybe provide sanctuary to birds and thats about it.
How do you enforce this? Pay for the enforcement, including intelligence, the force to apprehend an individual, money to house the individual, money to transport the individual. Pay for and man the borders?

How do you pay for the court employees, including the judges? The employees who support those people?
The vehicles used to transport? Health insurance for the employees and their families? How do you ensure that everyone in your state will not question this law, or the methods necessary to pay for everything involved? Including any law suits regarding discrimination?

How do you pay for the prosecutors? The jails? The food, water and sewage? The city/county/state employees required to perform everything required?

And how about hospitals? Do your arrestees ever get sick? Need medical attention? How about the state's inhabitants? Is everything privatized? Who oversees it on the government level? Writes the laws regarding how the state's residents should be treated? Who enforces that? How are the civil employees paid who deal with all of the paperwork? Answering the phone? How are their benefits paid for? Who provides them?

How do you pay for the schools? Including the buildings? Maintain the parking lots? Pay for the teachers? Do you offer benefits? Retirement? How do you pay for it?

Promising the moon is easy. Paying for it is another thing altogether.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:59 PM
 
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Are you implying that I don't want taxes? I'm not sure where you got that.

I don't mind paying fair taxes for those necessary things. I don't want to pay taxes for illegal aliens lawyers. Drivers licenses for illegals. A train to nowhere. Etc.
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Are you implying that I don't want taxes? I'm not sure where you got that.

I don't mind paying fair taxes for those necessary things. I don't want to pay taxes for illegal aliens lawyers. Drivers licenses for illegals. A train to nowhere. Etc.
Okay, so you only want to split CA into 3 states because you think you can live in a state that is only inhabited by white people? How would you insure that? Specifically? Would there be a pledge of allegiance to notify some authority whenever you saw someone of color?
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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Okay, so you only want to split CA into 3 states because you think you can live in a state that is only inhabited by white people? How would you insure that? Specifically? Would there be a pledge of allegiance to notify some authority whenever you saw someone of color?
So you are turning this into a racism issue. That is absurd and so typical of the left wing loons.

The fact is that we don't want our taxes squandered on a bunch of ridiculous liberal things like the train that nobody wants. Arizona is pretty diverse and they do a much better job of running their state.
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:47 AM
 
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Okay, so you only want to split CA into 3 states because you think you can live in a state that is only inhabited by white people? How would you insure that? Specifically? Would there be a pledge of allegiance to notify some authority whenever you saw someone of color?
What the heck are you even talking about? I'm not white. I don't understand why that matters or why you even brought it up.
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