Will we ever reach a time in California when everybody says, enough taxes... (San Francisco: living in, legal)

[Robertfchew]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Sanctuary state, as it pertains to California means that law enforcement agents do not ask about a person’s immigration status and they can't participate in any program that uses them as immigration agents.

In addition to California, Colorado, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Mexico, Oregon and Vermont are sanctuary states. There are also a large number of sanctuary cities and counties. https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...ies-and-States

The main reason for sanctuary status is to encourage undocumented people to report crime in their neighborhoods and testify against criminals without fear of deportation when they show up in court.

California does not "openly welcome all illegal aliens", but I'm sure there is nothing that I could say that would change your mind about that.

they're offering free healthcare, housing, food, and phones for illegals. This state is desperate for illegals because the democrats need to stay in power.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Robertfchew

they're offering free healthcare, housing, food, and phones for illegals. This state is desperate for illegals because the democrats need to stay in power.

Really?

San Francisco has a program that provides basic health services, only at City and County facilities to all residents regardless of immigration status.

Illegal immigrants are not eligible for SNAP or HUD housing, both are federal programs and specifically prohibit people from those programs who don't have authorization to live in the US.

There is no citizenship check for the free cell phone program but enrollment in a recognized social service program such as TANF or SNAP is required.

Children of immigrants who were born in the US are eligible for the same programs as any citizen, but their parents are not.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Robertfchew

they're offering free healthcare, housing, food, and phones for illegals.

Wrong.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-circulating-/

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Robertfchew

they're offering free healthcare, housing, food, and phones for illegals. This state is desperate for illegals because the democrats need to stay in power.

1. These complaints have nothing to do with sanctuary policies.

2. Illegals don’t vote.

3. Illegal population has been declining since the recession.

[Taksan]

Free cellphones for illegals or legals for that matter.....you’ve got to be kidding? What kind of crazy society do these people want to live in ?

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Robertfchew

they're offering free healthcare, housing, food, and phones for illegals.

Your statement about phones is also not true.

The Lifeline (phone) program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/phone-home/

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Taksan

Free cellphones for illegals or legals for that matter.....you’ve got to be kidding? What kind of crazy society do these people want to live in ?

This is the first time you've heard of the lifeline program?

[marino760]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

1. These complaints have nothing to do with sanctuary policies.

2. Illegals don’t vote.

3. Illegal population has been declining since the recession.

Who are you kidding? The problem with your argument is that illegals don't vote but their children and grandchildren do when they are old enough, and they number in the millions. That's the whole point of the conversation. If illegal immigration was controlled, these people wouldn't be voting here since their parents had no right to be in this country.
Also, since children of all immigrants are citizens, including illegals those children are fully eligible for every and all government assistant programs. Again, if their parents hadn't immigrated here illegally, they wouldn't be here in our school system or living in section 8 housing or be eligible for SNAP.
The illegal population numbers always goes up and down from year to year and decade to decade so arguing that the number of illegals might be down right now, means nothing in another year or 10 years.

[Taksan]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

This is the first time you've heard of the lifeline program?

Actually no ... I must admit I’ve never heard of it. I’m not sure it’s actually free cell phones if the information contained in your link is correct it seems subsidized or steeply discounted but not free.
I honestly don’t know how I feel about it... the libertarian in me says no way but I’m pragmatically thinking I see benefits as well in advance of many welfare programs.

[ikoolu]

actually i am very happy in crawford thank you for asking - gas 1.71 - elec 9.5 cents per kw, people actually wave with all five fingers, open doors for you and say thank you

no taxes on my cell phone or internet, no state income tax, not even one bond on the last election, i can buy a handgun with a 10 minute wait - no regrets whatsoever ever

me trip last week to so cal just proved once again it was a great move- traffic was a ***** even at 1 in the afternoon, rude drivers, homeless and beggars, gas over 3 bucks

SF now allows illegals to vote for school board -illegals can register to vote when they get a drivers

and keep telling yourself that illegals dont get welfare, food stamps, heath care via emergency rooms lol