Is LA nicer than SF yet? (Pasadena, Santa Monica: live, restaurant, prices)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by sean1the1

There's no debate! SoCal>>>>NorCal

Originally Posted by ryanst530

OC>=LA>>SF

/thread

You two are wanted back in 1965 where this mindset^ still might have been true

LOL because in **2019**, that chill you feel comes from being in a shadow-fyi

[Astral_Weeks]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Aww that's nice. I prefer somewhere more diverse tho.

Los Angeles Metro Area
Hispanic 45.1%
White 29.4%
Asian 15.9%
Black 6.3%
Multiracial 2.3%
Other Race 0.2%
Native American 0.2%
Pacific Islander 0.2%

San Francisco Metro Area
White 39.3%
Asian 25.9%
Hispanic 21.8%
Black 6.8%
Multiracial 4.5%
Pacific Islander 0.6%
Other Race 0.4%
Native American 0.2%

More visible in LA: Hispanics
More visible in SF: Every other group😭

You are splitting hairs here but if you want to play that game LA metro's "white" (non-Hispanic) population is more "diverse" than SF metro.

In LA you have the largest Persian/Iranian population outside of Tehran and the largest Armenian diaspora outside of Russia.

[Astral_Weeks]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

You two are wanted back in 1965 where this mindset^ still might have been true

Anyone with a solid mindset circa 1965 wouldn't want to be in Orange County....they'd be in San Francisco or possibly Venice Beach or Topanga Canyon or West Hollywood...if they were looking to capture the zeitgeist.

[Astral_Weeks]

Originally Posted by tstieber

OC is actually quite beautiful, possibly more naturally beautiful than San Diego. LA has access to scenery, but the LA basin, where most of the urbanization is, is really flat and boring. Add to that the poor city planning of the past, and I find most of it a bit of an eyesore. I do love Malibu and points inland from there, and Pasadena is a fave. Just not *as* beautiful as much of California.

Orange County is beautiful? Hmmm...yes the coast is nice. But unless you count Main Street inside Disneyland there is hardly a charming node of urbanity in the entire county!

These arguments about the "flatness" of LA are just laughable. Los Angeles is the only major city in the United States bisected by a mountain range and a total of four mountain ranges extend into city boundaries.

[BeauCharles]

From West Hollywood to Santa Monica is where most of the wealth, restaurants, shopping and fun activities are in LA. Its also much whiter than the city/region as a whole. People keep talking about the entire city but the vast swaths of mostly Hispanic neighborhoods don't really interest anyone who doesn't live there.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by BeauCharles

From West Hollywood to Santa Monica is where most of the wealth, restaurants, shopping and fun activities are in LA. Its also much whiter than the city/region as a whole. People keep talking about the entire city but the vast swaths of mostly Hispanic neighborhoods don't really interest anyone who doesn't live there.

Basically.

A few posts back someone said there are literally thousands of places to explore in LA and I was like "yeah right".

[TacoSoup]

Originally Posted by Astral_Weeks

Orange County is beautiful? Hmmm...yes the coast is nice. But unless you count Main Street inside Disneyland there is hardly a charming node of urbanity in the entire county!

These arguments about the "flatness" of LA are just laughable. Los Angeles is the only major city in the United States bisected by a mountain range and a total of four mountain ranges extend into city boundaries.

People are talking about Orange County’s natural beauty, not its urbanity.

Everyone is aware that mountains surround Los Angeles, and to a lesser extent that much of the valley is within the city limits, but you cannot deny the relatively flat basin that makes up a large part of the region. This is what people are commenting on. If you can’t see it just take one look at a topographical map or satellite photo.

[sean1the1]

Originally Posted by TacoSoup

People are talking about Orange County’s natural beauty, not its urbanity.

Everyone is aware that mountains surround Los Angeles, and to a lesser extent that much of the valley is within the city limits, but you cannot deny the relatively flat basin that makes up a large part of the region. This is what people are commenting on. If you can’t see it just take one look at a topographical map or satellite photo.

For LA city vast majority of it is not in the basin.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by sean1the1

For LA city vast majority of it is not in the basin.

To those who do not live in LA the basin is LA.


I was born there and have also lived in the Valley and while much of the Valley is LA, it isn't viewed that way. The basin is. The valley is ... The Valley.

[TacoSoup]

Originally Posted by sean1the1

For LA city vast majority of it is not in the basin.

Yes, and I made mention to the fact that much of the valley is in the city limits. I believe I said the vast majority of the region, not city limits, is a relatively flat basin, and I stand by that statement. Furthermore, while the valley is separated from the basin by the Santa Monica Mountains, it’s pretty flat too with no shortage of sprawl as well.