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Old 07-21-2022, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I know Irvine to be a very affluent area with a very high quality of life, so as I was compiling this list, I was shocked to see it rank dead last?

Anyone have an idea as to how and/or why?

This is a list of the 100 Largest Cities by the median income for household headed by a person who is under age 25.


100 Largest Cities
Census: Median Income, Primary Householder Under Age 25

Fremont, CA $108,125
San Francisco, CA $87,946
Oakland, CA $61,935
San Jose, CA $58,798
Scottsdale, AZ $58,216
Santa Ana, CA $52,538
Anaheim, CA $52,760
Chandler, AZ $52,286
Jersey City, NJ $51,723
Chula Vista, CA $49,605
Chesapeake, VA $49,204
North Las Vegas, NV $48,696
Virginia Beach, VA $47,913
Santa Clarita, CA $47,629
Gilbert, AZ $47,466
Aurora, CO $46,608
Plano, TX $46,175
Anchorage, AK $45,409
Seattle, WA $44,508
Washington, DC $44,256
Garland, TX $43,663
Denver, CO $42,921
New York, NY $42,856
Colorado Springs, CO $42,637
Honolulu, HI $42,119
Irving, TX $40,993
San Diego, CA $40,773
Raleigh, NC $40,356
Mesa, AZ $40,238
Henderson, NV $40,020
Minneapolis, MN $39,479
Bakersfield, CA $39,214
Atlanta, GA $38,033
Miami, FL $37,915
Norfolk, VA $37,806
Dallas, TX $37,641
Reno, NV $37,617
Orlando, CA $36,418
Glendale, AZ $36,571
Spokane, WA $36,231
Phoenix, AZ $36,207
Boston, MA $35,829
St Petersburg, FL $35,413
Fort Worth, TX $35,408
Omaha, NE $35,275
Jacksonville, FL $35,139
Fort Wayne, IN $34,898
Stockton, CA $34,814
Corpus Christi, TX $34,777
Los Angeles, CA $34,604
Arlington, TX $34,570
St Paul, MN $34,560
Oklahoma City, OK $34,547
Long Beach, CA $34,545
Austin, TX $34,385
Wichita, KS $32,415
Charlotte, NC $32,393
Chicago, IL $32,333
Portland, OR $32,330
Kansas City, MO $32,115
San Bernardino, CA $32,052
Sacramento, CA $31,463
Tampa, FL $31,510
Lincoln, NE $31,250
Boise, ID $31,148
St Louis, MO $31,012
Houston, TX $30,893
Durham, NC $30,804
Baltimore, MD $30,453
San Antonio, TX $30,335
El Paso, TX $30,280
Tulsa, OK $30,170
Newark, NJ $30,019
Greensboro, NC $30,005
Indianapolis, IN $28,450
Riverside, CA $27,450
Madison, WI $27,700
Tucson, AZ $27,252
Philadelphia, PA $26,790
Milwaukee, WI $26,064
Winston-Salem, NC $25,429
Albuquerque, NM $25,311
Memphis, TN $25,078
Buffalo, NY $24,895
Lexington, KY $24,775
Cleveland, OH $24,382
Cincinnati, OH $23,828
Richmond, VA $23,374
Lubbock, TX $22,366
Toledo, OH $21,816
Laredo, TX $21,775
Pittsburgh, PA $20,921
Detroit, MI $20,577
New Orleans, LA $17,021
Irvine, CA $14,342

Source: data.census.gov
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Old 07-21-2022, 02:58 PM
 
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I know Irvine to be a very affluent area with a very high quality of life, so as I was compiling this list, I was shocked to see it rank dead last?

Anyone have an idea as to how and/or why?

This is a list of the 100 Largest Cities by the median income for household headed by a person who is under age 25.


100 Largest Cities
Census: Median Income, Primary Householder Under Age 25

Fremont, CA $108,125
San Francisco, CA $87,946
Oakland, CA $61,935
San Jose, CA $58,798
Scottsdale, AZ $58,216
Santa Ana, CA $52,538
Anaheim, CA $52,760
Chandler, AZ $52,286
Jersey City, NJ $51,723
Chula Vista, CA $49,605
Chesapeake, VA $49,204
North Las Vegas, NV $48,696
Virginia Beach, VA $47,913
Santa Clarita, CA $47,629
Gilbert, AZ $47,466
Aurora, CO $46,608
Plano, TX $46,175
Anchorage, AK $45,409
Seattle, WA $44,508
Washington, DC $44,256
Garland, TX $43,663
Denver, CO $42,921
New York, NY $42,856
Colorado Springs, CO $42,637
Honolulu, HI $42,119
Irving, TX $40,993
San Diego, CA $40,773
Raleigh, NC $40,356
Mesa, AZ $40,238
Henderson, NV $40,020
Minneapolis, MN $39,479
Bakersfield, CA $39,214
Atlanta, GA $38,033
Miami, FL $37,915
Norfolk, VA $37,806
Dallas, TX $37,641
Reno, NV $37,617
Orlando, CA $36,418
Glendale, AZ $36,571
Spokane, WA $36,231
Phoenix, AZ $36,207
Boston, MA $35,829
St Petersburg, FL $35,413
Fort Worth, TX $35,408
Omaha, NE $35,275
Jacksonville, FL $35,139
Fort Wayne, IN $34,898
Stockton, CA $34,814
Corpus Christi, TX $34,777
Los Angeles, CA $34,604
Arlington, TX $34,570
St Paul, MN $34,560
Oklahoma City, OK $34,547
Long Beach, CA $34,545
Austin, TX $34,385
Wichita, KS $32,415
Charlotte, NC $32,393
Chicago, IL $32,333
Portland, OR $32,330
Kansas City, MO $32,115
San Bernardino, CA $32,052
Sacramento, CA $31,463
Tampa, FL $31,510
Lincoln, NE $31,250
Boise, ID $31,148
St Louis, MO $31,012
Houston, TX $30,893
Durham, NC $30,804
Baltimore, MD $30,453
San Antonio, TX $30,335
El Paso, TX $30,280
Tulsa, OK $30,170
Newark, NJ $30,019
Greensboro, NC $30,005
Indianapolis, IN $28,450
Riverside, CA $27,450
Madison, WI $27,700
Tucson, AZ $27,252
Philadelphia, PA $26,790
Milwaukee, WI $26,064
Winston-Salem, NC $25,429
Albuquerque, NM $25,311
Memphis, TN $25,078
Buffalo, NY $24,895
Lexington, KY $24,775
Cleveland, OH $24,382
Cincinnati, OH $23,828
Richmond, VA $23,374
Lubbock, TX $22,366
Toledo, OH $21,816
Laredo, TX $21,775
Pittsburgh, PA $20,921
Detroit, MI $20,577
New Orleans, LA $17,021
Irvine, CA $14,342

Source: data.census.gov
Maybe not as many people under 25 there and are still in or just out of college and do not need to work due to family's wealth, income, etc. The ones working may simply doing part time work to pay college costs, so not a full time salary.
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Old 07-21-2022, 06:37 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I find it fascinating that my hometown makes #10 on the list. It isn't known for being a wealthy area, which checks out when you consider the list is for households where the head is under 25. Chula Vista doesn't have a university, but it is an easy commute to several military bases. Irvine, on the other hand, is home to a large university and is otherwise just a bland suburban area where most 20-somethings wouldn't want to spend their free time.
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Old 07-22-2022, 09:25 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Maybe because of UC Irvine, it accounts for over 10% of its population.
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Old 07-22-2022, 01:04 PM
 
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The devil is in the details. Numbers without context are basically meaningless. Not planning on searching the entire Census site to figure out where you got this data from, or even what year it was from.

It could be many things...

Irvine has a huge Student Population with UCI and to a lesser amount IVC and a few other independent Universities. Depending on how they define Head of Household, this could lower the median significantly. It is also as you said a very expensive area. Not really a place a person just graduating college would be able to live after getting their first "real" job. They are going to head to the surrounding areas that are less expensive to live. Which could skew the numbers signficantly.

Of course, it also could be neither of those. It's all speculation without seeing the actual data and how it was calculated.
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Old 07-22-2022, 02:32 PM
 
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Maybe because of UC Irvine, it accounts for over 10% of its population.
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The devil is in the details. Numbers without context are basically meaningless. Not planning on searching the entire Census site to figure out where you got this data from, or even what year it was from.

It could be many things...

Irvine has a huge Student Population with UCI and to a lesser amount IVC and a few other independent Universities. Depending on how they define Head of Household, this could lower the median significantly. It is also as you said a very expensive area. Not really a place a person just graduating college would be able to live after getting their first "real" job. They are going to head to the surrounding areas that are less expensive to live. Which could skew the numbers signficantly.

Of course, it also could be neither of those. It's all speculation without seeing the actual data and how it was calculated.
But there are several cities on the list with universities (some multiple) with tens of thousands of students too. I wonder if it's where the students are coming from. I know UCI gets many international students.
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Old 07-22-2022, 02:53 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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But there are several cities on the list with universities (some multiple) with tens of thousands of students too. I wonder if it's where the students are coming from. I know UCI gets many international students.
True, UW Madison makes up an even bigger share of the city's population.

I have no idea then lol
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Old 07-23-2022, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I think the answer is the housing stock in Irvine has a relatively large percentage of affordable housing reserved for low and moderate income households.

This goes back decades when the city was still a relatively fast growing city.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...712-story.html

https://www.cityofirvine.org/affordable-housing

The presence of UCI probably contributes to some degree as well.
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Old 07-23-2022, 02:37 PM
 
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Irvine has 45% Asian population. I bet many under 24 are still in school. The affordable housing is targeting seniors, veterans and those with disabilities so it does not seem to house those under 24 specifically. It is rather odd though.
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Old 07-23-2022, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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Anteaters.

It's the Anteaters!
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