Kaiser investing 130 million to train 10,000 healthcare workers in California (live, cost)

[vincenze]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Yes. Tijuana dental is often fine.

Now then, do you equate good teeth cleaning and brain surgery?

There was a senator with a lot of money and the best doctors.
His name was McCain.
He had a brain surgery and quickly died.

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The flu happens more often.

I heard that cheap Cuban family doctors visit their patients at home when they have the flu.
My Kaiser sends a message "Don't come to the hospital if you have the flu!"

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by vincenze

There was a senator with a lot of money and the best doctors.
His name was McCain.
He had a brain surgery and quickly died.

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The flu happens more often.

I heard that cheap Cuban family doctors visit their patients at home when they have the flu.
My Kaiser sends a message "Don't come to the hospital if you have the flu!"

You are demonstrating a deep lack of knowledge about cancer, brain cancer in particular, and medicine in general.

For example: brain cancer is one of the most deadly forms of that disease. Once it progresses into stage 4, where McCain was diagnosed, there is no saving the victim by surgery ... there is only temporary relief and abeyance - which McCain received.

A more relevant example of the difference between jungle folk medicine and the rigorous scientific requirements for licensing in the US would be how modern western oncology has reduced the rate of cancer deaths by about 30% over recent decades, due to early detection / diagnoses and new treatments.

Personally, I love and embrace ancient and folk medicine for many ailments and certainly for preventative purposes ... however, ancient, jungle, and folk medicines do not have sophistication with regard to modern diseases. Nor are they the place to turn for emergencies such as from violent accidents, poisoning, sudden deadly infections, and the like.

Point being in all this, “cheap doctors” result in cheap skills for dealing with mortal circumstances. An interesting subject for you to browse might be the difference between mortality rates of warfare over the centuries. The rates of modern survival from battle injuries are remarkable - where not too long ago so many soldiers died from infections of even simple wounds. In my military service years, speaking of McCain who was shot down while I was in exact proximate action, I assisted many wounded through air rescue operations. The medics and field doctors we delivered to were amazing. This is not a field for “cheap training.”

[bad debt]

Originally Posted by vincenze

Instead of paying hundreds of billions in healthcare subsidies, Obamacare should've paid to teach millions of new cheap doctors.

Well congress is the one that funds residency positions (through medicare). Perhaps the Republican controlled congress should increase the number spots for MD's to get board certified.

[vincenze]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Personally, I love and embrace ancient and folk medicine for many ailments and certainly for preventative purposes ... however, ancient, jungle, and folk medicines do not have sophistication with regard to modern diseases. ”

The US healthcare system isn't geared towards preventative purposes.

If I go to a US dentist, why would he fix a small cavity in my tooth for $50 when it's more profitable for him to wait a little bit until my tooth is broken and needs an implant for $5,000?

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Didn't McCain kill 1 million Vietnamese because they wanted free socialist healthcare?

I decided to check the numbers.
Vietnam spends $334 per capita for healthcare, the life expectancy is 75 years.
The USA spends $9,536 per capita, the life expectancy is 79 years.

Why is it so?

Minister Nguyen

Most doctors are trained in public, government-run medical schools, and the government covers all or most of the costs of training. Medical students just pay a small fee. It is very cheap compared to United States. There are now one or two private medical schools. We limit them because the quality of medical education is an important consideration, and private investments for private medical schools are often inadequate.

our health spending actually is relatively low. One explanation is that we make primary health care and prevention a priority. We spend 30 percent of our total health care dollars on preventive medicine. I think we also have not yet counted this in the per capita health spending.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by vincenze

The US healthcare system isn't geared towards preventative purposes.

If I go to a US dentist, why would he fix a small cavity in my tooth for $50 when it's more profitable for him to wait a little bit until my tooth is broken and needs an implant for $5,000?

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Didn't McCain kill 1 million Vietnamese because they wanted free socialist healthcare?

I decided to check the numbers.
Vietnam spends $334 per capita for healthcare, the life expectancy is 75 years.
The USA spends $9,536 per capita, the life expectancy is 79 years.

Why is it so?

You must have had a rotten dentist. No dentist I ever went to waited until a tooth got so bad it needed an implant.

So were all 1 million Vietnamese in line for the free socialist healthcare when McCain, evidently all by himself, killed them, or were they in a stadium?

Preventive healthcare is common in the US. Kaiser does it, all medical providers do it. It’s called flu shots, physicals, vaccinations, etc. That’s all preventative healthcare.

[bad debt]

Originally Posted by vincenze

I decided to check the numbers.
Vietnam spends $334 per capita for healthcare, the life expectancy is 75 years.
The USA spends $9,536 per capita, the life expectancy is 79 years.

Why is it so?

What's the obesity rate in Vietnam compared to the US? I don't know the complete and correct answer to your question, but I guarantee you it's multi factorial.

Only 1 percent of Vietnamese adults are obese.

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vi...y-3598832.html

Think that might have something to do with it? Along with diet, physical activity, and mental illness?

[bad debt]

Originally Posted by Mike930

You must have had a rotten dentist. No dentist I ever went to waited until a tooth got so bad it needed an implant.

So were all 1 million Vietnamese in line for the free socialist healthcare when McCain, evidently all by himself, killed them, or were they in a stadium?

Preventive healthcare is common in the US. Kaiser does it, all medical providers do it. It’s called flu shots, physicals, vaccinations, etc. That’s all preventative healthcare.

Agreed. I mean really, if your dentist is that terrible why wouldn't you go to a different one?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by vincenze

The US healthcare system isn't geared towards preventative purposes.

If I go to a US dentist, why would he fix a small cavity in my tooth for $50 when it's more profitable for him to wait a little bit until my tooth is broken and needs an implant for $5,000?

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Didn't McCain kill 1 million Vietnamese because they wanted free socialist healthcare?

I decided to check the numbers.
Vietnam spends $334 per capita for healthcare, the life expectancy is 75 years.
The USA spends $9,536 per capita, the life expectancy is 79 years.

Why is it so?

Ummmm ... no. He didn’t.

Your posts are increasingly bizarre. Are you feeling alright?

And you should pay attention to what Mike and bad debt just posted for you to read.

[Mr5150]

Yet another polite discussion on the CA forum. But I do understand that Kaiser adding 10,000 jobs to the CA economy is a tough pill to swallow for some who post here

[vincenze]

Originally Posted by bad debt

What's the obesity rate in Vietnam compared to the US? I don't know the complete and correct answer to your question, but I guarantee you it's multi factorial.

Only 1 percent of Vietnamese adults are obese.

Think that might have something to do with it? Along with diet, physical activity, and mental illness?

I guess it's one of the preventive things that the socialist government spends money on.

I just guess that each Vietnamese schoolkid gets a healthy three-meal lunch, free or very cheap.
A schoolkid in another country gets a pizza, chips, and soda.

I guess socialists also encourage schoolchildren to ride bicycles and walk because the government doesn't want to pay for their obesity.

No helmets, no kidnappers.