New food waste law (San Francisco: apartment, how much, home)

[AnythingOutdoors]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

We'll still have to gather the scraps of kitchen waste somewhere, which could very well smell bad. The city of Los Angeles suggests a couple of odor-reducing techniques (besides emptying pails more frequently): layering food waste with yard trimmings or freezing food scraps in a reusable container prior to collection day.

Ahahahaha... sure, let's freeze our garbage before throwing it out

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by AnythingOutdoors

Ahahahaha... sure, let's freeze our garbage before throwing it out

Who has spare freezer space for this? Certainly not those living in apartments.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Who has spare freezer space for this? Certainly not those living in apartments.

Everyone can just buy deep freezers to store their trash and fill them up as they go. Problem solved. You're welcome, environment!

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Everyone can just buy deep freezers to store their trash and fill them up as they go. Problem solved. You're welcome, environment!

A community freezer for every apartment complex paid for by the tax payers Cause ya know, all our energy for freezers comes from renewable energy not coal.

[evening sun]

My freezer is always full, to cut down on shopping trips. I have no room for garbage to be frozen. Our green bin is already full, it only gets picked up every two weeks. I doubt they are going to give us new, bigger ones.

[AnythingOutdoors]

I also find the recommendation to freeze food scraps strange from an energy perspective. It uses energy to freeze garbage, in addition to the increased frequency of opening the freezer every time one has a food strap. Individually, it's probably negligible. But if millions of people start do it it will increase energy consumption.

However, I don't expect many people will bother with this strange suggestion. Most will buy small composable food waste bags and a separate bin. These bags are made from food (corn) and have to be manufactured, packaged, and shipped to the consumer. Is the energy expenditure and resulting CO2 emissions worth it? I honestly don't know. But can't help wonder if it would just be cheaper and more environmentally friendly to improve capture of landfill gas.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by AnythingOutdoors

I also find the recommendation to freeze food scraps strange from an energy perspective. It uses energy to freeze garbage, in addition to the increased frequency of opening the freezer every time one has a food strap. Individually, it's probably negligible. But if millions of people start do it it will increase energy consumption.

However, I don't expect many people will bother with this strange suggestion. Most will buy small composable food waste bags and a separate bin. These bags are made from food (corn) and have to be manufactured, packaged, and shipped to the consumer. Is the energy expenditure and resulting CO2 emissions worth it? I honestly don't know. But can't help wonder if it would just be cheaper and more environmentally friendly to improve capture of landfill gas.

It appears we won't have a choice. SFH will be issued one more bin and demand we use it. I'll use it as a water barrel. Gotta love the heavy handed politics in CA.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by AnythingOutdoors

I also find the recommendation to freeze food scraps strange from an energy perspective. It uses energy to freeze garbage, in addition to the increased frequency of opening the freezer every time one has a food strap. Individually, it's probably negligible. But if millions of people start do it it will increase energy consumption.

However, I don't expect many people will bother with this strange suggestion. Most will buy small composable food waste bags and a separate bin. These bags are made from food (corn) and have to be manufactured, packaged, and shipped to the consumer. Is the energy expenditure and resulting CO2 emissions worth it? I honestly don't know. But can't help wonder if it would just be cheaper and more environmentally friendly to improve capture of landfill gas.

This is the funniest thing about all of these conservation efforts. You save energy in one place but use more in another. There is no good solution except fewer people

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by stablegenius

This is the funniest thing about all of these conservation efforts. You save energy in one place but use more in another. There is no good solution except fewer people

Welp, housing prices keep going up it might fix itself here.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Welp, housing prices keep going up it might fix itself here.

I wish but I doubt it. Then we’ll still have people elsewhere in the world. Nothing short of a Thanos style solution will work.