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Old 03-07-2009, 04:03 PM
 
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Toughest on crime and better odds of making it safer ~ California or Arizona or Nevada?
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Ca Cap & Central Ca
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Depends on the crime issue.
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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This guy in Arizona has an awful lot of fans:

America’s Toughest Sheriff

"chain gangs, which contribute thousands of dollars of free labor to the community. The male chain gang, and the world’s first-ever female and juvenile chain gangs, clean streets, paint over graffiti, and bury the indigent in the county cemetery.

banned smoking, coffee, movies, pornographic magazines, and unrestricted TV in all jails.

cheapest meals in the U.S. too. The average meal costs about 15 cents, and inmates are fed only twice daily, to cut the labor costs of meal delivery. He even stopped serving them salt and pepper to save tax payers $20,000 a year.

pink under shorts he makes all inmates wear. Years ago, when the Sheriff learned that inmates were stealing jailhouse white boxers, Arpaio had all inmate underwear dyed pink for better inventory control. The same is true for the Sheriff’s handcuffs. When they started disappearing, he ordered pink handcuffs as a replacement. And later, when the Sheriff learned the calming, psychological effects of the color pink—sheets, towels, socks— everything inmates wear, except for the old-fashioned black and white striped uniform, were dyed pink. "

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Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModule&mn=sheriff_bio - broken link)

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Old 03-08-2009, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Baywood Park
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Depends on the crime issue.
I agree. I believe on being tough on crime, but with a balance. Who wants to live a police state? I feel less safe in places that are toughest on crime. The gov't. can be as scary as a criminal.
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Old 03-09-2009, 03:29 PM
 
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This guy in Arizona has an awful lot of fans:

America’s Toughest Sheriff

"chain gangs, which contribute thousands of dollars of free labor to the community. The male chain gang, and the world’s first-ever female and juvenile chain gangs, clean streets, paint over graffiti, and bury the indigent in the county cemetery.

banned smoking, coffee, movies, pornographic magazines, and unrestricted TV in all jails.

cheapest meals in the U.S. too. The average meal costs about 15 cents, and inmates are fed only twice daily, to cut the labor costs of meal delivery. He even stopped serving them salt and pepper to save tax payers $20,000 a year.

pink under shorts he makes all inmates wear. Years ago, when the Sheriff learned that inmates were stealing jailhouse white boxers, Arpaio had all inmate underwear dyed pink for better inventory control. The same is true for the Sheriff’s handcuffs. When they started disappearing, he ordered pink handcuffs as a replacement. And later, when the Sheriff learned the calming, psychological effects of the color pink—sheets, towels, socks— everything inmates wear, except for the old-fashioned black and white striped uniform, were dyed pink. "

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Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModule&mn=sheriff_bio - broken link)
That's awesome!

Most ironic thing though - if he'd done all that same stuff at a jail in Iraq, they'd call him a war criminal. Go figure!
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Northern Arizona
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Originally Posted by Charles View Post
This guy in Arizona has an awful lot of fans:

America’s Toughest Sheriff

"chain gangs, which contribute thousands of dollars of free labor to the community. The male chain gang, and the world’s first-ever female and juvenile chain gangs, clean streets, paint over graffiti, and bury the indigent in the county cemetery.

banned smoking, coffee, movies, pornographic magazines, and unrestricted TV in all jails.

cheapest meals in the U.S. too. The average meal costs about 15 cents, and inmates are fed only twice daily, to cut the labor costs of meal delivery. He even stopped serving them salt and pepper to save tax payers $20,000 a year.

pink under shorts he makes all inmates wear. Years ago, when the Sheriff learned that inmates were stealing jailhouse white boxers, Arpaio had all inmate underwear dyed pink for better inventory control. The same is true for the Sheriff’s handcuffs. When they started disappearing, he ordered pink handcuffs as a replacement. And later, when the Sheriff learned the calming, psychological effects of the color pink—sheets, towels, socks— everything inmates wear, except for the old-fashioned black and white striped uniform, were dyed pink. "

from

Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModule&mn=sheriff_bio - broken link)
On the surface, Sheriff Joe looks great. That is, until you find out that he constantly wastes his allotted budget on an unnecessary PR staff, underpays his deputies, fights constantly with the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors/Mayor of Phoenix and surrounding cities/Arizona Governor and Attorney General and has cost the county/taxpayers millions in wrongful death settlements to families who lost relatives/loved ones in the jails.

Google "Scott Norberg" and follow the paper trail from there to see how well the MCSO handles crime and punishment. The problem is that old people in Sun City, Queen Creek and other retirement communities love him and vote with a helluva lot more frequency than any other age bracket.

Meanwhile, the City of Phoenix/Maricopa County aren't any better off in terms of crime compared to any other city in this country except maybe Washington DC and Detroit.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Toughest on crime and better odds of making it safer ~ California or Arizona or Nevada?
GENERALLY speaking, CA is safer than both of those states overall as it is ranked as having less crime than both AZ and NV. But that doesn't say a whole lot b/c you're experiance with crime anywhere will depend on a variety of factors.
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