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Old 09-01-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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Maayyyyybbeee Toronto and that's stretching it.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
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*Sigh* Within a few hundered years, someone's gonna try to match a Martian city to an 'equivalent' American city...
You'd have to have a Canadian city with over fifty percent speaking Spanish as a first language and Asians without money. Canada does have Latin "elites" coming up to Vancouver and Toronto as there are no questions up here on where the dinero came from. Asians up here have money i.e. Mandarin, Taiwanese.

There is no Canadian city with freeways except maybe Toronto. We took Arthur Ericksons advice and tried to avoid the whole "freeway" thing and it looks good.

Toronto has immigrant communities mainly from Africa, and a lot of them are actually Christian.
Canada just recently started requiring a Visa from Mexico and Czechslovakia as we were getting a "wave" of people coming in and then applying permanently, jumping the line.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Canada
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You'd have to have a Canadian city with over fifty percent speaking Spanish as a first language and Asians without money. Canada does have Latin "elites" coming up to Vancouver and Toronto as there are no questions up here on where the dinero came from. Asians up here have money i.e. Mandarin, Taiwanese.

There is no Canadian city with freeways except maybe Toronto. We took Arthur Ericksons advice and tried to avoid the whole "freeway" thing and it looks good.

Toronto has immigrant communities mainly from Africa, and a lot of them are actually Christian.
Canada just recently started requiring a Visa from Mexico and Czechslovakia as we were getting a "wave" of people coming in and then applying permanently, jumping the line.
Even though you are from Canada, it doesn't sound like you know that much about our cities. Montreal has lots of highways, and so do cities like Calgary, Edmonton, Quebec City, Hamilton etc. It's not just Toronto! Moreover, there are plenty of Asian immigrants in Vancouver that aren't from wealthy families. Yes there are wealthy asian people in Vancouver, but there are large numbers of working class and middle class Asian-Canadians and immigrants from Asian countries as well. Really, Vancouver is one of the few major cities in Canada that isn't too significantly built around highways.

Categorizing Toronto as mostly having Christian African Immigrants is particularly strange. South Asians are one of the most visible groups in the country, there is a very prominent Chinese community, and most black people in the city are from the Carribean communities, not African ones.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Even though you are from Canada, it doesn't sound like you know that much about our cities. Montreal has lots of highways, and so do cities like Calgary, Edmonton, Quebec City, Hamilton etc. It's not just Toronto! Moreover, there are plenty of Asian immigrants in Vancouver that aren't from wealthy families. Yes there are wealthy asian people in Vancouver, but there are large numbers of working class and middle class Asian-Canadians and immigrants from Asian countries as well. Really, Vancouver is one of the few major cities in Canada that isn't too significantly built around highways.

Categorizing Toronto as mostly having Christian African Immigrants is particularly strange. South Asians are one of the most visible groups in the country, there is a very prominent Chinese community, and most black people in the city are from the Carribean communities, not African ones.
Totally agree. The majority of Asian people in Vancouver are just your average working type. Growing up in Vancouver a lot of my friends are of Chinese extraction. Some born here, some from Hong Kong and China, some from Taiwan and a couple from South Africa. All just " working Joe's ".
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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Totally agree. The majority of Asian people in Vancouver are just your average working type. Growing up in Vancouver a lot of my friends are of Chinese extraction. Some born here, some from Hong Kong and China, some from Taiwan and a couple from South Africa. All just " working Joe's ".
Yeah, my mom is Tawainese and I grew up in Vancouver. The Chinese Canadian kids I grew up with ranged from working class to upper middle class, but they weren't the new stereotypical uber-wealthy mainland Chinese expats that people now imagine constitute the Chinese population here. The second-generation kids who grew up in the 80s and 90s are pretty assimilated now at this point as it is, to say nothing of the third-generation.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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You'd have to have a Canadian city with over fifty percent speaking Spanish as a first language and Asians without money. Canada does have Latin "elites" coming up to Vancouver and Toronto as there are no questions up here on where the dinero came from. Asians up here have money i.e. Mandarin, Taiwanese.

There is no Canadian city with freeways except maybe Toronto. We took Arthur Ericksons advice and tried to avoid the whole "freeway" thing and it looks good.

Toronto has immigrant communities mainly from Africa, and a lot of them are actually Christian.
Canada just recently started requiring a Visa from Mexico and Czechslovakia as we were getting a "wave" of people coming in and then applying permanently, jumping the line.
Umm this is 2015... I thought Czechoslovakia ceased to be a country since like 1993?
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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You'd have to have a Canadian city with over fifty percent speaking Spanish as a first language and Asians without money. Canada does have Latin "elites" coming up to Vancouver and Toronto as there are no questions up here on where the dinero came from. Asians up here have money i.e. Mandarin, Taiwanese.

There is no Canadian city with freeways except maybe Toronto. We took Arthur Ericksons advice and tried to avoid the whole "freeway" thing and it looks good.

Toronto has immigrant communities mainly from Africa, and a lot of them are actually Christian.
Canada just recently started requiring a Visa from Mexico and Czechslovakia as we were getting a "wave" of people coming in and then applying permanently, jumping the line.
I don't know why people keep claiming all Asians living in Vancouver have money. I know 4 Chinese who live in Vancouver:

A: my old classmate. yes, from a wealthy family, almost independently wealthy - she didn't need to work but she did. After getting her citizenship, she returned to Shanghai right away.

B: a mother with her 8 year old son. Her Husband provides for them while working in Japan. He has a fine job and nowhere near "wealthy". They bought a townhouse for less than 500,000.

C: B's friend, working as a librarian. Not rich by any stretch. Married a Canadian.

D: A girl who went to Vancouver because she happened to find a job there through a recruiter. Again, not rich and rents an apartment.

All this wealthy Chinese occupying Vancouver thing has really been blown out of proportion. Rich Chinese like other cities too, London, Toronto, NYC, LA, Tokyo, Hong Kong are all their preferred destinations. Vancouver is just one of them. I am sure there are way more rich Asians in LA than Vancouver, but I don't see people complain as much.

RE freeway: I am glad Vancouver doesn't have a freeway, but it is a small city with only 2 million people. I don't think the same can perfectly apply to much larger cities such as LA (12 million), or elsewhere. I don't like freeway any more than you do, but for some cities, not having any may not be an option.
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Old 09-01-2015, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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You're reading too much into it.

There is no equivalent of LA in Canada.

You want a match to Chicago, no problem, Toronto. Denver is a toss up with Calgary. Seattle, Portland and Vancouver are essentially one big metroplex (yes Natnasci, I know Van is different ) but we can't match LA.
Well no L.A is a megacity - Toronto won't meet that criteria until the 2030's.. With that said, Toronto's suburban density as I mentioned actually exceeds L.A's but it doesn't sprawl out nearly as much as a contiguous urban area.. Aside from that no there isn't really an L.A equiv in Canada and that is ok - for a megacity the size of L.A - it has a particularly disappointing DT urban core.. Chicago Toronto, Montreal and maybe even Vancouver have more meaty cores than L.A. as do a host of other Canamerican cities with far less population.

Why I mention Toronto though - its the only city in Canada that has significant and dense suburban and exurban sprawl so i'd say if we are talking suburban density and sprawl only Toronto would be the closest match though it ends about there.

Quote from link below:

"The Urban Area
The Toronto urban area (called “population centre” by Statistics Canada) had a population of approximately 5.1 million according to the 2011 census. With a land area of 675 square miles (1,750 square kilometers), Toronto’s population density is 7,590 per square mile (2,930 per square kilometer). Toronto is the only major urban area in the New World (Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States) that is more dense than Los Angeles, which had 7,000 residents per square mile (2,700 per square kilometer), according to the 2010 census (Note on extended urban areas)."

http://www.newgeography.com/content/...n-form-toronto

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Old 09-02-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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Well no L.A is a megacity - Toronto won't meet that criteria until the 2030's.. With that said, Toronto's suburban density as I mentioned actually exceeds L.A's but it doesn't sprawl out nearly as much as a contiguous urban area.. Aside from that no there isn't really an L.A equiv in Canada and that is ok - for a megacity the size of L.A - it has a particularly disappointing DT urban core.. Chicago Toronto, Montreal and maybe even Vancouver have more meaty cores than L.A. as do a host of other Canamerican cities with far less population.

Why I mention Toronto though - its the only city in Canada that has significant and dense suburban and exurban sprawl so i'd say if we are talking suburban density and sprawl only Toronto would be the closest match though it ends about there.

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"The Urban Area
The Toronto urban area (called “population centre” by Statistics Canada) had a population of approximately 5.1 million according to the 2011 census. With a land area of 675 square miles (1,750 square kilometers), Toronto’s population density is 7,590 per square mile (2,930 per square kilometer). Toronto is the only major urban area in the New World (Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States) that is more dense than Los Angeles, which had 7,000 residents per square mile (2,700 per square kilometer), according to the 2010 census (Note on extended urban areas)."

The Evolving Urban Form: Toronto | Newgeography.com
As much as the data suggests, LA sets a pretty low bar for city comparison... so having a "higher suburban density than LA" is like saying a 4th grader is more educated than a 3rd grader...
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Old 09-02-2015, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I don't know why people keep claiming all Asians living in Vancouver have money. I know 4 Chinese who live in Vancouver:

A: my old classmate. yes, from a wealthy family, almost independently wealthy - she didn't need to work but she did. After getting her citizenship, she returned to Shanghai right away.

B: a mother with her 8 year old son. Her Husband provides for them while working in Japan. He has a fine job and nowhere near "wealthy". They bought a townhouse for less than 500,000.

C: B's friend, working as a librarian. Not rich by any stretch. Married a Canadian.

D: A girl who went to Vancouver because she happened to find a job there through a recruiter. Again, not rich and rents an apartment.

All this wealthy Chinese occupying Vancouver thing has really been blown out of proportion. Rich Chinese like other cities too, London, Toronto, NYC, LA, Tokyo, Hong Kong are all their preferred destinations. Vancouver is just one of them. I am sure there are way more rich Asians in LA than Vancouver, but I don't see people complain as much.

RE freeway: I am glad Vancouver doesn't have a freeway, but it is a small city with only 2 million people. I don't think the same can perfectly apply to much larger cities such as LA (12 million), or elsewhere. I don't like freeway any more than you do, but for some cities, not having any may not be an option.
It's the media. The only thing people who don't live in Vancouver hear about is how the wealthy Chinese are buying property etc.
Very little or no mention of ordinary folk OR how the Asian community and Asian individuals have contributed in a good way to Vancouver.
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