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View Poll Results: Which city feels least Americanized?
Vancouver 4 17.39%
Montreal 19 82.61%
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I don't know what you mean by this. An Asian city is a city located in Asia. And Vancouver is not even a city with a majority Asian population. At least not yet. Maybe someday I guess. And even so, many of the people of Asian origin are assimilated and only have a superficial understanding of the culture of the part of Asia their forebears came from.



The anglophone community in Montreal has a greater impact on the city than the Asian community has in Vancouver. This is not to diminish the Asian influence in Vancouver, but it is a fact.

Look at all the anglo institutions in Montreal that exist in parallel to the francophone ones.

In Vancouver the Asian community is generally in the same institutions (functioning in English) as anyone else. Not parallel to them.
I didn't dispute BIMBAM's point that Montreal's Anglo community is more established and exerts more political influence. I agree with that. What I was disputing is the comparison of the relative size of the Chinese/Asian community in Vancouver to Montreal's Anglo community. It's not even close.
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I don't know what you mean by this. An Asian city is a city located in Asia. And Vancouver is not even a city with a majority Asian population. At least not yet. Maybe someday I guess. And even so, many of the people of Asian origin are assimilated and only have a superficial understanding of the culture of the part of Asia their forebears came from.



The anglophone community in Montreal has a greater impact on the city than the Asian community has in Vancouver. This is not to diminish the Asian influence in Vancouver, but it is a fact.

Look at all the anglo institutions in Montreal that exist in parallel to the francophone ones.

In Vancouver the Asian community is generally in the same institutions (functioning in English) as anyone else. Not parallel to them.
43 percent of people in the Lower Mainland ( Vancouver and burbs ) have Asian heritage. I'm not sure what percentage of those people were born here etc.

Just over 19 percent are of Chinese heritage.
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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43 percent of people in the Lower Mainland ( Vancouver and burbs ) have Asian heritage. I'm not sure what percentage of those people were born here etc.

Just over 19 percent are of Chinese heritage.
Sounds about right!
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I didn't dispute BIMBAM's point that Montreal's Anglo community is more established and exerts more political influence. I agree with that. What I was disputing is the comparison of the relative size of the Chinese/Asian community in Vancouver to Montreal's Anglo community. It's not even close.
Do you mean anglo in terms of origin (English-Scottish-Irish) or anglo in terms of language?
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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Anglophones were 13.2% of the population of Montreal in 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Montreal

While Vancouver was 27.7% Chinese as of 2011. I would imagine that's increased a bit since then as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...ble_minorities
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Anglophones were 13.2% of the population of Montreal in 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Montreal

While Vancouver was 27.7% Chinese as of 2011. I would imagine that's increased a bit since then as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...ble_minorities
You're comparing a language (for Montreal) vs. an ethnic origin (for Vancouver). I think that makes a comparison difficult. Though I kind of understand your point.
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:28 PM
 
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You're comparing a language (for Montreal) vs. an ethnic origin (for Vancouver). I think that makes a comparison difficult. Though I kind of understand your point.
Yes, the comparison is between two different categories, but I don't see why that makes the comparison difficult.
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The majority of anglophones in Montreal and Quebec today are not of English-Scottish-Irish origin BTW.

There are people of all origins in the anglo community and Ashkenazi Jews and Italians for example may even be more numerous than WASPs in the community at this point.

Many English-Scottish-Irish people in Quebec are now francophones, owing to their longer presence in the province.
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:36 PM
 
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The majority of anglophones in Montreal and Quebec today are not of English-Scottish-Irish origin BTW.

There are people of all origins in the anglo community and Ashkenazi Jews and Italians for example may even be more numerous than WASPs in the community at this point.

Many English-Scottish-Irish people in Quebec are now francophones, owing to the
When I wrote "Anglo," I meant it as an abbreviation for Anglophone.
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Old 01-30-2016, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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At one point there will be parallel institutions in Vancouver that are Chinese-speaking... healthcare, K-12 being among those most likely to go first.
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