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One thing that hasn't been brought up yet in this thread as far as I remember, is snitching. Some (most?) provinces have tip lines where one can report violators of provincial health orders.
How do you guys feel about that? Would you snitch? Or snitch under certain circumstances, such as only if you don't know the people you're snitching on? Would it depend on whether you're in the middle of a large outbreak as we have here in Manitoba whereas you might not if you're at the tail end of an outbreak?
463,396 vaccinations today, the second highest amount.
demand is still strong and shows no sign of slowing down. I wonder how high it will get.
Covid numbers are now in free fall in all provinces now that Manitoba has decided to join
Canada will past the UK in a few days now
* graph doesn't include todays reported figures
In fact it won't any time soon considering the UK has 36% of population fully vaccinated compared to just 4.8% in Canada.
Our country will soon trail the UK and Canada by a fathom because there are still too many anti-vaxxers down here refusing to take any shot. I get it that the vaccine is too dangerous for some individuals but that group of individuals has to be very small. Seriously, if Trudeau wants 75% of all Canadians fully vaccinated, Biden should one up Trudeau and call for 90% of Americans to be fully vaccinated before July. Then Canada will be more willing to reopen the border and Americans will start to regain the respect they lost in recent years.
I think these 2 charts best illustrates the wisdom of Canada's 1 dose strategy in saving the most lives
This has little to do with vaccination. It takes weeks for vaccine to become effective and more people than that need to have it. It's not like you get the shot and you are suddenly protected. When you have so many people still not vaccinated, the virus can still transmit as easily. Last year around the same time, cases were dropping everywhere without any vaccine. It just the nature of the viruses - when people spend more time outdoors because the weather is warm, transmission is lower.
Our country will soon trail the UK and Canada by a fathom because there are still too many anti-vaxxers down here refusing to take any shot. I get it that the vaccine is too dangerous for some individuals but that group of individuals has to be very small. Seriously, if Trudeau wants 75% of all Canadians fully vaccinated, Biden should one up Trudeau and call for 90% of Americans to be fully vaccinated before July. Then Canada will be more willing to reopen the border and Americans will start to regain the respect they lost in recent years.
Many people who haven't gotten the covid shot are not anti vaxxers. They are hesitant because it's a new type of vaccine and it's human nature to be afraid of something not tested for too long and not even fully approved. Many people I know were very hesitant to take the vaccine just 3 months ago (not anti vaxxers) and now a few months later 95% of them are fully vaccinated and more and more people are willing to get it. No country can reach 90% of vaccination before children under 12 are eligible. But then not many parents will want to put this vaccine on their children especially when children are generally not affected by this virus. And another thing everyone forgets - people who have had covid have the same if not even more protection than the vaccine according to a few studies, so they should be counted as part of the number to reach herd immunity. The EU is doing that and will accept not only vaccinated tourists, but also the ones who can prove they had covid.
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This has little to do with vaccination. It takes weeks for vaccine to become effective and more people than that need to have it. It's not like you get the shot and you are suddenly protected. When you have so many people still not vaccinated, the virus can still transmit as easily. Last year around the same time, cases were dropping everywhere without any vaccine. It just the nature of the viruses - when people spend more time outdoors because the weather is warm, transmission is lower.
so how do explain Canada have far more cases int he 3rd wave, but barely any extra deaths if not for vaccines, especially compared to the second wave which was only 3 month earlier?
The only difference betwwen the 2nd and 4rd wave was that many Canadian got 1 dose of vaccine
so how do explain Canada have far more cases int he 3rd wave, but barely any extra deaths if not for vaccines, especially compared to the second wave which was only 3 month earlier?
The only difference betwwen the 2nd and 4rd wave was that many Canadian got 1 dose of vaccine
There are many factors such as age of people, available treatment, virus variants. They said this spring more younger people got hospitalized for covid and were able to recover. In WA the hospital stay this spring was a lot shorter than last year because of the age of the people. That also affected the deaths. Last year older people were sick, virus treatment was also not that great because of little information and experience. Also, remember that these people who had covid this year were most likely 99% unvaccinated and deaths were still lower, so the vaccine didn't play a role in that.
There are many factors such as age of people, available treatment, virus variants. They said this spring more younger people got hospitalized for covid and were able to recover. In WA the hospital stay this spring was a lot shorter than last year because of the age of the people. That also affected the deaths. Last year older people were sick, virus treatment was also not that great because of little information and experience. Also, remember that these people who had covid this year were most likely 99% unvaccinated and deaths were still lower, so the vaccine didn't play a role in that.
I wonder why old people weren't as affected in the third wave humm.... what possible could have happened to the older population so they did not die from covid in the 3rd wave when just 2 months earlier they were dying like flies in the 2nd wave???? its like old people got some form of protection in those 2 months that stopped them from dying in the 3rd wave.
I say again, what could have happened in just those 2 months to completely change the situation?????
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