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Old 02-03-2022, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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So where is the evidence they work? Not talking about draconian measures such as Australia and China.
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Old 02-03-2022, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Canada
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So where is the evidence they work? Not talking about draconian measures such as Australia and China.
The study hasn't been sanctioned by Johns Hopkins. I knew as soon as I read it, that it couldn't be true in the way it was portrayed. The study's parameters and definition of a "lockdown" would include masks, which is not what most people think of as a lockdown.

Secondly if we accept that it is better to sneeze into your elbow, and it is a given that doctors wear masks to avoid the spread of germs, common sense tells us that staying home us going to limit your chances of any viral disease.

There's a host of other issues, which are covered in the links.

I've seen articles in the past on how well lockdowns work, but at the moment, my phone is running out of gas.
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Who would have thought lockdowns don't do much to stop a respiratory virus.

Johns Hopkins study shows lockdowns only reduced COVID-19 death rate by .2%
Who would have thought that some people would believe that study without questioning and checking up on the credibility of it?

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Old 02-04-2022, 11:15 AM
 
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Who would have thought that some people would believe that study without questioning and checking up on the credibility of it?

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How did that work for Canada? Even Australia's lockdowns only temporarily worked and the inevitable happened. Western Australia, China and Hong Kong will be hit harder than they could ever imagine.
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Old 02-04-2022, 01:25 PM
 
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How did that work for Canada? Even Australia's lockdowns only temporarily worked and the inevitable happened. Western Australia, China and Hong Kong will be hit harder than they could ever imagine.
Well given the nature of the lockdowns being on again off again with the pandering to the whiners by various Provincial Premieres, one has to account for the delay period prior to any spread and there being no effective way to monitor/measure across the board of the entire country how a lockdown imposed in one part of the country with trains planes and cars still transporting people across the land would have any success given people still moving into and out of any given area.

Had the entire country moved to a lockdown phase and maintained that effectively - who knows what might have been achieved by way of reduction in both serious illnesses and deaths.

We cannot measure a lockdown's effect when for all intents and purposes there was no universal lockdown, so we'll never know now.
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:24 PM
 
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Evidence that masks reduce covid transmission https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...-covid-19/amp/

Evidence that lockdowns saved lives https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23F1G3

Other measures, statistics https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068302
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Old 02-05-2022, 12:00 AM
 
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Evidence that masks reduce covid transmission https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...-covid-19/amp/

Evidence that lockdowns saved lives https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23F1G3

Other measures, statistics https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068302
They just slow it down which was actually the purpose of them - to not overwhelm the hospitals.
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Old 02-05-2022, 01:09 AM
 
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They just slow it down which was actually the purpose of them - to not overwhelm the hospitals.
Yes, I know. Were we talking about something else?
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Old 02-05-2022, 01:21 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Yes, I know. Were we talking about something else?
But they were kept on far longer than the hospitals' risk of being overwhelmed.
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Old 02-05-2022, 07:37 AM
 
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But they were kept on far longer than the hospitals' risk of being overwhelmed.
You're forgetting Omicron. You're also forgetting a country that does not have medical care for profit having fewer beds available for unforeseen instances such as this.
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