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To MarkJames 68 - Trudeau the smarter had some great expressions. I hardly think we're an elephant sleeping next to a mouse; the Canadians trounced us in the War of 1812; the British managed to lose, thus ending the war in a draw.
To MarkJames 68 - Trudeau the smarter had some great expressions. I hardly think we're an elephant sleeping next to a mouse; the Canadians trounced us in the War of 1812; the British managed to lose, thus ending the war in a draw.
Keep in mind the British were also fighting the French at the same time. The War of 1812 was a minor theater of war for the British.
But to illustrate the original point, the War of 1812 is taught in Canadian schools, at least it was, while I’m not sure it is in the US.
Keep in mind the British were also fighting the French at the same time. The War of 1812 was a minor theater of war for the British.
I'll check but I believe that it was in what you call the Seven Years War that the Western Hemisphere was a minor theater, and the Revolutionary War. I do not believe (and I'll check) that Britain and France were at war in 1812. My point, in any event, was that the fighters in modern Canada were far more effective than the fighters brought from Britain.
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But to illustrate the original point, the War of 1812 is taught in Canadian schools, at least it was, while I’m not sure it is in the US.
The War of 1812 is or at least was taught on these events:
The Car Tangled Spanner (our national anthem) was written based on a battle at Fort McHenry, Maryland;
The White House was burned down; and
The pop song The War of 1812, sung by Johnny Horton came out in the late 1950's or early 1960's.
I'll check but I believe that it was in what you call the Seven Years War that the Western Hemisphere was a minor theater, and the Revolutionary War. I do not believe (and I'll check) that Britain and France were at war in 1812.
Does the name Napoleon and the Napoleonic Wars not ring a bell?
In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans
We fired our guns and the British kep a-comin'
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they begin to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
We looked down a river
And we see'd the British come
And there must have been a hundred of'em
Beatin' on the drums
They stepped so high
And they made their bugles ring
We stood by our cotton bales
And didn't say a thing
We fired our guns and the British kep a-comin'
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they begin to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise
If we didn't fire our muskets
'Till we looked 'em in the eyes
We held our fire
'Till we see'd their faces well
Then we opened up our squirrel guns
And really gave 'em - well we
Fired our guns and the British kep a-comin'
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they begin to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
Yeah, they ran through the briars
And they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes
Where the rabbit couldn't go
They ran so fast
That the hounds couldn't catch 'em
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
We fired our cannon 'til the barrel melted down
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round
We filled his head with cannon balls, and powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind
We fired our guns and the British kep a-comin'
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they begin to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
Yeah, they ran through the briars
And they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes
Where the rabbit couldn't go
They ran so fast
That the hounds couldn't catch 'em
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
Napoleon was busy invading Russia in 1812. The 1812 Overture was written decades later to commemorate the disastrous results for the French. Hitler should have taken note.
However, a couple of the causes of the War of 1812 were related to British involvement in the Napoleonic Wars:
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First, a series of trade restrictions introduced by Britain to impede American trade with France, a country with which Britain was at war (the U.S. contested these restrictions as illegal under international law);
second, the impressment (forced recruitment) of seamen on U.S. vessels into the Royal Navy (the British claimed they were British deserters);
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The British were engaged in a life-and-death war with Napoleon and could not allow the Americans to help the enemy, regardless of their lawful neutral rights to do so. As Horsman explains, "If possible, England wished to avoid war with America, but not to the extent of allowing her to hinder the British war effort against France.
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