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Old 01-02-2015, 06:30 PM
 
Location: The Jar
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Cancer: 'Bad luck' seen as cause in study - CNN.com
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Old 01-03-2015, 12:01 AM
 
Location: CA
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Well, in the article I saw today (Wall Street Journal) they used the term 'randomly crop up' (WHAAAT??!! ), "genetic mutations that randomly crop up as our stem cells divide are the major contributors to cancer overall...." and that just doesn't sound too very scientific to me. I am glad to see they are looking closer at possible causes. I mean, if I had cancer, and moved beyond it, I'd REEEEALLY like to know how to work toward a non-recurrence!!

So, if I didn't already smoke or something (like smoking overrides 'random cropping up' ) I'd like to know what to change in my 'environment', etc.

Anyway, that's what FRUSTRATES me about 'science' and cancer research.

I know a young girl - about 13 at the time - who contracted some unique type of leukemia, and was treated (two bone-marrow transplants and chemo) and is surviving really well now several years later (though her reproductive abilities are 'wiped out') -- but her mom was wondering, gee, what about her brother, who lives in the same house, eats the same food, etc????? And, who's next????

Those are my thoughts anyway.... Thanks for bringing up this article!
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:19 AM
 
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Hummm...

And I was thinking it was all those products I have purchased which are "Known to the State of California to cause cancer!"
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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When I look at my semi-rare cancer, this rings true. Only 8,000 people are a year are diagnosed with this cancer in the US, and thankfully, it is considered one of the more curable cancers. Medical science knows and awful lot about it, but they don't know for sure what causes it. Risk factors include Jewish heritage, being exposed to second hand smoke, having a sibling with this type of cancer (but oddly, no increased risk for children of those who had it), and exposure to mono.

Of the millions of people who have multiple risk factors in this country, why do only 8,000 a year end up getting this type of cancer? A lot of it does come down to bad luck.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Default Science, it is just too damn difficult

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and that just doesn't sound too very scientific to me.
Because you have no understanding of probability theory and cell replication.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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Bad luck it is.
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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The types of cancers you get from smoking are no the same diseases as what the majority of cancer patients get. The majority of cancer patients develop cancer through sporadic changes in the their DNA virtually attributable to nothing. It can happen to absolutely anyone.

You can play the "blame game" all you want but for the most part Cancer is a random disease and it could be coming for you. You may already have it.
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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Hummm...

And I was thinking it was all those products I have purchased which are "Known to the State of California to cause cancer!"
There is not a single item that's scientifically known to cause cancer except smoking. Everything else is a guess.
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Sudcaroland
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I think bad luck definitely has something to do with it. Being birn with enough bad luck to be genetically prone to having cancer. Otherwise, I don't understand how young children could have the disease. My daughter was one when she had her first cancer - I fed her well, she never was in the sun, we don't smoke... no pediatric cancer in the family either. So what were the odds?

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Old 02-05-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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Why healthy lives could prevent thousands of cancers every month Why healthy lives could prevent thousands of cancers every month | Cancer Prevention Blog

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