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My vet has been looking out for our animals for something like 20 years; I think he knows what he's doing.
Long practice does not guarantee a vet "knows what he's doing". Sometimes vets can be good at some things and not so good at others.
Hairballs and vomiting in cats is NOT normal. Did your vet tell you that? Did your vet talk to you about feeding species appropriate diets? Recommend blood work or x rays?
If he doesn't recommend those things, why not?
We need to be advocates for our cats' health. They can't talk and tell us where it hurts. Trust in a vet is important but the vet needs to earn that trust. And part of that is working as a team, you and the vet, not client blindly following everything a vet says. Vets can be and sometimes are wrong. Or if not wrong, necessarily, they need to be open to the fact that sometimes a different approach is needed.
It has not escaped my notice that you are ignoring my questions and suggestions. However I have continued to post because this thread will be read by many people and the information I am offering here may help someone else.
Long practice does not guarantee a vet "knows what he's doing". Sometimes vets can be good at some things and not so good at others.
Hairballs and vomiting in cats is NOT normal. Did your vet tell you that? Did your vet talk to you about feeding species appropriate diets? Recommend blood work or x rays?
If he doesn't recommend those things, why not?
We need to be advocates for our cats' health. They can't talk and tell us where it hurts. Trust in a vet is important but the vet needs to earn that trust. And part of that is working as a team, you and the vet, not client blindly following everything a vet says. Vets can be and sometimes are wrong. Or if not wrong, necessarily, they need to be open to the fact that sometimes a different approach is needed.
It has not escaped my notice that you are ignoring my questions and suggestions. However I have continued to post because this thread will be read by many people and the information I am offering here may help someone else.
I'm real busy right now. We're in the process of moving out of a property that's been in my family 200 years, and into a house in another state. I haven't been following this very carefully but certainly didn't deliberately mean to ignore your questions.
I'm real busy right now. We're in the process of moving out of a property that's been in my family 200 years, and into a house in another state. I haven't been following this very carefully but certainly didn't deliberately mean to ignore your questions.
Please post whatever you feel might be helpful.
This will be causing your cat a lot of stress as well, which will exacerbate any other problems he may be having.
This will be causing your cat a lot of stress as well, which will exacerbate any other problems he may be having.
This is very true & hence why I've hesitated so long on a similar move myself (even as of now going mo. to mo. in an apt due to this, til we catch a feral & also figure how to socialize him w/ our indoor cat).
Very true indeed re stress, catsmom, & I hate to make a cat suffer due to my needs 1st -- before theirs. Tough call to make sometimes but I try to really think things through as well.
This is very true & hence why I've hesitated so long on a similar move myself (even as of now going mo. to mo. in an apt due to this, til we catch a feral & also figure how to socialize him w/ our indoor cat).
Very true indeed re stress, catsmom, & I hate to make a cat suffer due to my needs 1st -- before theirs. Tough call to make sometimes but I try to really think things through as well.
I had to sell the property; there wasn't much of a choice. I also had to sell my horses and let almost all my help go, all while running a business and quarreling with family, who wanted me to sell but wouldn't offer any support. But we're resettled in and there hasn't been any vomiting for five days. It probably was stress. He hates to move, hates hotel rooms. I know how he feels.
The only time that my boy has had the white vomit, it's more like foamy drooly mess when he's eaten something he shouldn't have. One time I was super worried because I thought he had eaten a spider and maybe it bit him. One time he had a long chunky strand of loose fur from grooming sort of stuck in the corner of his mouth that was partly down his throat, and he was trying to puke it out I guess, and I had to rescue him from the situation. Lots of foamy white drool then. I imagine I might get sick if I had a long piece of stuck-together undercoat trailing halfway down my throat, too! Poor guy.
Even with grooming, there is sometimes no keeping up with Nimbus during shedding season. He's a floof. But hairballs? At their worst, maybe once or twice a month. Usually not even that often. And there is not white stuff, but it's tinted kind of orangey tan like...pukey fluid. I've always given credit to the all wet diet, for the fact that he doesn't vomit or have hairballs very often. And I've found that avoiding the chunky or shredded (foods with gravy) reduces that even more. Now we only feed pate style Fancy Feast, because when we've gone experimental, it upsets his stomach. He seems to do well on this, so why mess with a good thing I guess...
I would never assume that any vet, unless perhaps they cited a couple of the resources that I'm aware of for in-depth information on the subject, knew much about feline nutritional needs. It's always been my understanding that the pet food companies are big influencers in terms of what vets are taught about pet diets. They only know that there is a problem, when animals start dropping dead and recalls happen. Otherwise they seem to figure that things like frequent vomiting, diabetes and kidney problems and urinary problems are just normal for domestic cats. Even good vets, don't always get the right information. If a vet sells Hills products in their office, if you see them on a shelf in the lobby or see ads for the big pet food companies anywhere, then it's a good bet that they might not know.
I know, I know, "Why trust some people on the internet over my vet of decades" --RIGHT!-- I don't trust random stranger opinions, that's why I read catinfo.org in its entirety with my own eyeballs. I trust that lady, she is a vet and a specialist in feline nutrition.
Anyways. Hey, I hope your kitty keeps feeling better. Perhaps it was just the stress of the move. It sounds like you were pretty stressed out, too. I think that our animal buddies can sense this sort of thing in our body language, and you feeling stress might also have scared him. I hope that things work out ok for you both.
The only time that my boy has had the white vomit, it's more like foamy drooly mess when he's eaten something he shouldn't have. One time I was super worried because I thought he had eaten a spider and maybe it bit him. One time he had a long chunky strand of loose fur from grooming sort of stuck in the corner of his mouth that was partly down his throat, and he was trying to puke it out I guess, and I had to rescue him from the situation. Lots of foamy white drool then. I imagine I might get sick if I had a long piece of stuck-together undercoat trailing halfway down my throat, too! Poor guy.
Even with grooming, there is sometimes no keeping up with Nimbus during shedding season. He's a floof. But hairballs? At their worst, maybe once or twice a month. Usually not even that often. And there is not white stuff, but it's tinted kind of orangey tan like...pukey fluid. I've always given credit to the all wet diet, for the fact that he doesn't vomit or have hairballs very often. And I've found that avoiding the chunky or shredded (foods with gravy) reduces that even more. Now we only feed pate style Fancy Feast, because when we've gone experimental, it upsets his stomach. He seems to do well on this, so why mess with a good thing I guess...
I would never assume that any vet, unless perhaps they cited a couple of the resources that I'm aware of for in-depth information on the subject, knew much about feline nutritional needs. It's always been my understanding that the pet food companies are big influencers in terms of what vets are taught about pet diets. They only know that there is a problem, when animals start dropping dead and recalls happen. Otherwise they seem to figure that things like frequent vomiting, diabetes and kidney problems and urinary problems are just normal for domestic cats. Even good vets, don't always get the right information. If a vet sells Hills products in their office, if you see them on a shelf in the lobby or see ads for the big pet food companies anywhere, then it's a good bet that they might not know.
I know, I know, "Why trust some people on the internet over my vet of decades" --RIGHT!-- I don't trust random stranger opinions, that's why I read catinfo.org in its entirety with my own eyeballs. I trust that lady, she is a vet and a specialist in feline nutrition.
Anyways. Hey, I hope your kitty keeps feeling better. Perhaps it was just the stress of the move. It sounds like you were pretty stressed out, too. I think that our animal buddies can sense this sort of thing in our body language, and you feeling stress might also have scared him. I hope that things work out ok for you both.
Thank you so much, Sonic. He's back to his sleeping routine and putting on weight. Part of it was spraying him with the flea spray, but no more mice or fleas, and central air. We were living in an old ranch house I inherited when my aunt died. Sold it, but had to sell the horses, too, which, yes, was extremely stressful--I cried for two days. I sold them to some other AR people but once you let them go you never really know what's going to happen to them.
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Thank you so much, Sonic. He's back to his sleeping routine and putting on weight. Part of it was spraying him with the flea spray, but no more mice or fleas, and central air. We were living in an old ranch house I inherited when my aunt died. Sold it, but had to sell the horses, too, which, yes, was extremely stressful--I cried for two days. I sold them to some other AR people but once you let them go you never really know what's going to happen to them.
Ooh, yeah. Flea products can be scary. Obviously for most, they are an unfortunate necessity, but it sucks that some of the products have actually harmed pets. I would definitely have been looking at that as a prime culprit. Keep an eye on him. And again, hoping very much that he simply gets past whatever was making him feel icky.
I am incredibly lucky to live in Colorado. An indoor cat in Colorado's Front Range (dry, high altitude) can go their whole life with no need to prevent fleas. They (pet fleas) simply do not thrive here, as they do in most parts of the country. I've experienced cat flea infestation when I lived other places though, it's horrendous.
And I'm sorry to hear about your situation with the horses, too. It's always difficult to give up our animal companions even when we have every reason to believe that they are going to good new homes.
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