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Charlie Sheen has acted like this for a LOOOONG time and a lot of people have supported it by watching his shows etc. They've married him despite a long history of drug use, hiring porn stars etc.
Once he rehabs and does some PR he will be back and the same people will welcome him back.
So frankly, I don't think the Sheen family is the stupid one at this point they've merely learned that they can get away with anything over and over and over.
The Sheen "family" learned this? Perhaps I'm missing something but I thought Martin Sheen had 4 children - 3 of which seem to be reasonably normal (at least we're not reading about them in the tabloids). I'm sure it is as heartbreaking for him as for any other parents - and as Charlie is not a minor, what his parents can do is limited. Charley has a problem (or most likely several problems) I don't think we can blame the parents on this one.
So frankly, I don't think the Sheen family is the stupid one at this point they've merely learned that they can get away with anything over and over and over.
What, exactly, has the Sheen family "gotten away with"?
LOL--Riiight..judging from the wealth of misinformation and inaccuracies in your post, you writing a book about the perils of AA or the 12-Step model would make about as much sense as Paris Hilton penning a book about astrophysics.
12-Step programs do not "enable" the addict; in fact, one such program is Al-Anon, whose sole purpose is to teach significant others of addicts how not to be enablers.
Also, AA and NA in no way "romanticize" the addiction; the vast majority of the stories told in those meetings describe the agony and suffering cause by addiction. In fact, if someone speaking at a meeting does begin to stray into doing this, they are usually called on it.
AA also doesn't tell the addict that he will die if he doesn not continue to attend meetings. The "keep coming back" refrain is merely an exhortation to continue to work the program that has helped so many people recover.
You don't know me. You have no idea who I am or why I have the opinions that I do. It is not misinformation or inaccuracies. I quite intimately know about 12-step programs and rehab centers. It is the truth. Even The Big Book says that if the "alcoholic" stops attending meetings they will die or go to prison.
I suspect you have a very limited knowledge of the subject.
Charlie Sheen is 40 something years old. Not a kid. But still a child to his parents (especially since he doesn't act like a responsible adult).
I'm trying not to be judgmental of Martin Sheen because his son has been behaving this way for more than 20 something years (ok, probably longer). For Martin Sheen this is a cancer when really it should be a parent's greatest disappointment. Charlie's other siblings are doing well and there is always one bad apple in the bunch. Really I can't judge what Martin's feeling and perception is, I'm a parent so I really feel for him. Charlie has to get help and this is no longer his parents fault.
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That's so disappointing ... I thought Martin Sheen would take more of a tough stance, but instead, he's not helping his son.
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The Sheen "family" learned this? Perhaps I'm missing something but I thought Martin Sheen had 4 children - 3 of which seem to be reasonably normal (at least we're not reading about them in the tabloids). I'm sure it is as heartbreaking for him as for any other parents - and as Charlie is not a minor, what his parents can do is limited. Charley has a problem (or most likely several problems) I don't think we can blame the parents on this one.
I'm not saying I do, (blame the parents) but I guess a lot of you aren't old enough and don't know of Martin Sheen's early days in Hollywierd. He was always in the tabloids for boozing, drugs and having a very bad attitude. Charlie did not fall far from the tree.
Emilio's career got sidetracked by "the lifestyle" too. He must have straightened out and is flying right now since I never hear of him anymore but he was the fodder after his father and before his brother Charlie.
What, exactly, has the Sheen family "gotten away with"?
By "Sheen Family" I was intending to refer predominantly to Charlie and his wives. His father has a clean track record...others not quite so much.
I will let you do your own homework but I would suggest starting out with him shooting Kelly Preston "accidentally" after which she broke off the engagement.
It goes on from there to include various domestic assault charges, drug violations of parole and so on and so forth....his most recent wife didn't even file for divorce after he was arrested for beating her up...he divorced her a year later.
So yes, we have a 20 year track record of bad behavoir with no consequences over and over and over and Charlie and a portion of his family have indeed gotten away with it.
I caught Charlie's interview last night (or the biggest part of it), and it confirmed my earlier opinion here, even proved it beyond doubt.
Charlie's posture keeps shifting, he's almost contritely apologetic at some moments and pompously belligerent at others but his decadence was so
clearly apparent. Who does he become a role model for while he lives an, "in your face" lifestyle, compete with lawlessness, sexual promiscuity and
wanton disregard for authority? What good are his sober moments when he devaluates his image in a continual disgraceful public exposure like this?
Whose hero does he think he is, and just who does he think he's impressing? Although I don't care for the two and a half men series that brings this
guy, a million bucks an episode, I'm hoping that if the network wants to spin-off a new series in the same format with other cast members in support,
they might consider Robert Downey Jr. in the lead role. Charlie Sheen needs to take a lesson in recovering from himself, from RD jr., a guy who seems
to prove (thus far), that with sincere determination, one may certainly turn their life around.
The Sheen "family" learned this? Perhaps I'm missing something but I thought Martin Sheen had 4 children - 3 of which seem to be reasonably normal (at least we're not reading about them in the tabloids). I'm sure it is as heartbreaking for him as for any other parents - and as Charlie is not a minor, what his parents can do is limited. Charley has a problem (or most likely several problems) I don't think we can blame the parents on this one.
I was referring more to Charlie and his wives. The dad etc. have been supportive.
I'm not saying I do, (blame the parents) but I guess a lot of you aren't old enough and don't know of Martin Sheen's early days in Hollywierd.
You do know the rags make up stories don't you? I have family members who have worked with Martin. Since the early 70's. He's professional, knows his lines, is supportive of his cast and crew, and is on set on time and is considered to be one of the most decent men in that town. He is also a massive supporter of numerous charities, but that won't make the National Enquirer.
He freely admits he's had his problems with addiction. He attributes his ongoing recovery to his religion. Nobody is more worried about Charlie than his parents.
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By "Sheen Family" I was intending to refer predominantly to Charlie and his wives. His father has a clean track record...others not quite so much.
Charlie did get away with a lot. Because he has made massive amounts of money for the producers of his show and CBS. You are forgiven a lot until you cross a certain line. Which is usually when you start costing money instead of generating it. In Charlie's case his mouth finally did him in. I truly, truly hope he gets help before he totally self-destructs.
You choose to light up a cigarette. You choose to take a drink of booze. You choose to take illegal drugs. All three addictions can be beaten with treatment if the addict wants to quit. You don't choose to get cancer.
True enough, but those choices are no longer choices after the addictions begin, and susceptibility varies with the individual. I was addicted to nicotine until I forced myself ("cold turkey") to stop smoking tobacco 20 years ago. I really wanted to quit! Alcohol had its chances with me, but it never got a hold on me. My cousin was addicted to alcohol. One size does not fit all.
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I caught Charlie's interview last night (or the biggest part of it), and it confirmed my earlier opinion here, even proved it beyond doubt. 
