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Old 04-10-2020, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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With Verizon. I’m glad my older iPhone works on everything. CDMA was pretty marginal with one bar. GSM works so much better
Technically, Verizon & Sprint don't use GSM. They use VOLTE or CDMA where still available. VOLTE does use a SIM card like T-mobile and At&t have for several years.
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Old 04-10-2020, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Mulino, OR
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The networks can and will be shut down sooner than later. When At&t shut down Analog and 2G on their networks they sent free 3G (GSM) phones to customers affected by the shutdown with no additional contract or obligation. There is no reason to assume that Verizon will or won't do the same. Verizon originally said they would shut down CDMA at the end of 2019 but pushed it back after they realized that too many users would be cut off. Closer to the end of the year, I suspect that affected users with the older technology devices will be given various incentives to upgrade. Verizon has not activated any CDMA devices for almost a year or more.

This whole debate is like complaining that you cannot buy leaded gasoline for your '58 Chevy any longer.
couldnt they at least leave it there for 911 service, because there is a law about it saying all phones must have access to emergency service regardless
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Old 04-10-2020, 02:10 PM
 
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couldnt they at least leave it there for 911 service, because there is a law about it saying all phones must have access to emergency service regardless
This shouldn't be a burden of providers.

I feel a better way to do this would for the FCC to fund a very small amount of lower band (600Mhz or below) for emergency cell phone use only. Providers could be required to support this on their towers, but make it available to all phone (regardless of provider). That way providers can focus on their business.
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Old 04-10-2020, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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Once the technology is dead and buried, how can it be supported ? I am willing to bet the FCC has no provisions that CDMA must be supported into perpetuity.

Cell phone companies in the US no longer provide support on Analog phones, do you think should have available spectrum to support it still ? It's not like the pending shut down of CDMA hasn't been made well known. Verizon did originally announce they would completely shut it down at the end of Dec 2019 but pushed it back another year. Who knows for certain it might not be pushed back to a later date ?
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Old 04-10-2020, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Mulino, OR
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Once the technology is dead and buried, how can it be supported ? I am willing to bet the FCC has no provisions that CDMA must be supported into perpetuity.
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i mean, well, cell companies have no right to block 911 access from certian phones
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Old 04-10-2020, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Mulino, OR
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So i did some real deep thinking for a while, ive come to a conclusion that if verizon never shut down any networks and keep introducing more networks over time, they could make more money over time, and if they detect zero activated users on one network (excepting brand new ones), they could leave a sliver for emergency calls only


now isnt that an idea
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Old 04-11-2020, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Mulino, OR
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so ive been doing research all night and heres what i have found so far:

verizon is actually trying to force people off the 3G network by scaring them off the network

once no ones using it, they can legally shut it down

and legally shut it down means NO ONE ON IT FOR AT LEAST 1 YEAR

so if at least one person is still using it, legally they cant shut it down

how would they find out? well if you activated a CDMA phone before 2018, it would stay active till you deactivate it

keep this all in mind
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Old 04-14-2020, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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No one needs to keep this in mind. Why the #$%^ do you want to keep 3g so effing bad? What is this awesome 3g phone you're rocking?
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Old 04-14-2020, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Mulino, OR
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No one needs to keep this in mind. Why the #$%^ do you want to keep 3g so effing bad? What is this awesome 3g phone you're rocking?
My casio GzOne ravine that i had since i was nine and would never give up for anything, plus i rely mostly on the emergency call service that would get cut off if the network was gone, plus the ravine seems to be the strongest of all the rugged phones ive tortured
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Old 04-15-2020, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Mulino, OR
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Holy 25-year old legacy digital communications technology, they still use CDMA? I thought that would have gone the way of AMPS by now!
there is still more people who rely on it

if verizon actually shuts it down im 1 mm away from roiting them like i did (unsucsessfully) when at&t shut down 2g
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