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Sorry you disagree, TexasLawyer2000, but you are the misinformed one here about iPhones.
I was with Cingular/At&t when the very first iPhone was released and I know what I am talking about. The iPhone can send SMS/MMS over Wifi or over the cellular network by turning the feature on to send over Wifi or turned off will go through the cellular network.
I don't follow about iPhones being able to send SMS/MMS over wifi. SMS/MMS is a feature of carrier messaging. You can confirm this by looking at the imessage spec (the technology iPhones use over wifi). In order for it to carry a message sent as an SMS or MMS over wifi, it has to wrap it in an envelope and be sent as an imessage. Apple receives the imessage (not an sms or mms) and then makes a determination of whether the recipient has an iPhone or not. Apple will then either pass on the envelope or unwrap the sms/mms to pass onto the recipient's carrier.
Where in the spec does it specify that an sms/mms can be sent from an iphone over wifi?
That doesn't answer the question. It just shows that you don't know what iMessage, SMS, and MMS is.
Read this thread. SMS and MMS aren't supported over wifi on any phone. iMessage simply changes the object to an iMessage envelope if the message is to be sent over wifi. The actual SMS/MMS isn't sent over wifi. Apple makes a determination server-side how to send it to the recipient based on the phone they have.
I don't follow about iPhones being able to send SMS/MMS over wifi. SMS/MMS is a feature of carrier messaging. You can confirm this by looking at the imessage spec (the technology iPhones use over wifi). In order for it to carry a message sent as an SMS or MMS over wifi, it has to wrap it in an envelope and be sent as an imessage. Apple receives the imessage (not an sms or mms) and then makes a determination of whether the recipient has an iPhone or not. Apple will then either pass on the envelope or unwrap the sms/mms to pass onto the recipient's carrier.
Oh, my bad. Didn't see you mentioned the iMessage specifications. You're right.
That doesn't answer the question. It just shows that you don't know what iMessage, SMS, and MMS is.
You are the mistaken one.
An iPhone can either convert SMS/MMS to an iMessage and send via Wifi or send as a standard text/MMS via the cellular network. The message is delivered in one of two ways: iPhone recipients can receive iMessages directly which are handled by Apple's proprietary iMessaging system and not the cellular carrier, or if the recipient does not have an iPhone, the message is received through the cellular network.
iPhone users can choose to either send using iMessage or can turn off the feature completely and send through cellular networks.
Non-iPhone users don't have the benefit to send or receive iMessages.
Oldgorilla, if you feel I am incorrect please feel free to enlighten me with your wisdom. We can disagree, but instead of just telling me that I am wrong, please show me the error of my ways.
An iPhone can either convert SMS/MMS to an iMessage and send via Wifi or send as a standard text/MMS via the cellular network. The message is delivered in one of two ways: iPhone recipients can receive iMessages directly which are handled by Apple's proprietary iMessaging system and not the cellular carrier, or if the recipient does not have an iPhone, the message is received through the cellular network.
iPhone users can choose to either send using iMessage or can turn off the feature completely and send through cellular networks.
Non-iPhone users don't have the benefit to send or receive iMessages.
That's exactly what we have been saying. Finally, you understand. Earlier in this thread, you kept saying that an iPhone can send SMS/MMS over wifi -- which is incorrect. The SMS/MMS is converted to an iMessage that is sent over wifi (when using wifi instead of the carrier).
Sorry if what I wrote earlier was confusing. I re-wrote my thoughts and it sounds more clear admittingly. My original draft was clearly not as clear in retrospect. No ill will meant to anyone. Mea Culpa......
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