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The numbers speak for themselves. Charlotte is developing, thankfully, quite differently than Atlanta.
(In my book, a 77,000 population loss is a place where nobody wants to live.)
When your city limits are twice as large and cover more land area, population statistics do not mean much. How much of Charlotte's population growth is in Uptown and other close in neighborhoods compared with say University City, Steele Creek, or Ballantyne which are really just suburbs that happen to be within the city limits? Also you have outlying cities such as Huntersville, Concord, and Rock Hill which are currently growing faster than the city of Charlotte itself. You also neglected to mention that Atlanta is attracting more and more wealthy people and singles, while more families and lower income people are moving out which is why on paper it appears to be not much of a gain, which is honestly a win for the city of Atlanta itself as more neighborhoods are being revitalized/gentrified.
Regardless you can try telling yourself that "Charlotte" is somehow different but in real life, it's growth patterns are no different than any other Sunbelt city.
...Also you have outlying cities such as Huntersville, Concord, and Rock Hill which are currently growing faster than the city of Charlotte itself. You also neglected to mention that ....
I certainly don't mind mentioning these cities. Below are the last growth numbers from the US Census. They prove you to be incorrect. Charlotte is growing faster in all these areas and in terms of %'s it's only matched by Huntersville, which BTW is in the core county of Mecklenburg. Since you mentioned it, none of these cities had annexations during this period.
You picked these places and the math again speaks for itself.
I certainly don't mind mentioning these cities. Below are the last growth numbers from the US Census. They prove you to be incorrect. Charlotte is growing faster in all these areas and in terms of %'s it's only matched by Huntersville, which BTW is in the core county of Mecklenburg. Since you mentioned it, none of these cities had annexations during this period.
The math again speaks for itself.
Charlotte
2010 - 731,424
2011 - 751,087
1 yr change - 19,663
% change - 2.7%
Huntersville
2010 - 46,773
2011 - 48,048
1 year change - 1,275
% change - 2.7%
Concord
2010 - 79,066
2011 - 80,597
1 year change - 1,531
% change - 1.9%
Rock Hill
2010 - 66,158
2011 - 67.423
1 year change - 1,265
% change - 1.9%
Are those numbers taking into account the various unincorporated areas surrounding those areas or just the area within the small city limit's themselves?
Anyways if we were to be using your logic, cities such as Jacksonville and Indianapolis would be considered to be more "vibrant" than cities such as Boston just because they have more people.
Regardless you have not proved anything because you have not either posted any sources or have provided any statistics on how Uptown Charlotte and other close in neighborhoods are growing compared with outlying suburban neighborhoods such as Steele Creek or University City.
Are those numbers taking into account the various unincorporated areas surrounding those areas or just the area within the small city limit's themselves? ...
The NC Legislature give towns in this region EJT authority over their future areas. This allows them to control growth. Huntersville, for example has very strict limits on sprawling development. I recommend that you look at a municipal map for the EJTs in Mecklenburg and the adjoining counties. You will find there is little unincorporated land left.
Remember you picked these places, I just gave the statistics. They you were drawing conclusions based on assumptions and not facts. If you would rather compare county growth instead of city growth we can go there too. You will find that Mecklenburg, the core county, is growing faster than any of them.
Regardless you have not proved anything because you have not either posted any sources
All my numbers come from the US Census, (I already said this) you can check them yourself if you doubt them. If this is the criteria, then I have provided proof. Furthermore I will point out that you have provided nothing except assumptions that have all turned out to be incorrect.
You can't accuse me of cherry picking because I did this with the places that you picked out. Sorry son, but you lost this argument.
Traffic will aways be bad until you can remove the human equation from it. So long as people control the car, there will always be problem.
Most traffic jam ups are from people going too fast or too slow, from merging too late or too early, from using their cell phone and causing an accident, etc.
Also, every time one person hits their brakes, it causes a backup behind them because their 3 seconds of braking multiplies out to the people in back who are eventually at a standstill. If you don't believe me, ask anyone who was in the military and was always in the back on the platoon. When you do a route step march or run, the people in the back alternate between being completely stopped or sprinting to catch up because the people in the front run at uneven speeds.
Then you missed the context in which my response was given. It was in response to someone who said that traffic was much worse in ATL because there were 3M more people living there. Obviously he is talking about the MSA. This is, using your description, an "inherently flawed response". I'm only pointing out that population alone doesn't account for horrible traffic. It also takes very hap hazard and/or non existent planning and in ATL's case, the context, it's because people choose to live in the 28 county sprawl over living in the core.
I agree with that. But also note that DC, with a more extensive and busier transit system and better planning, has the worst traffic delays in the country. Population alone doesn't explain things but they do play a large role.
I agree with that. But also note that DC, with a more extensive and busier transit system and better planning, has the worst traffic delays in the country. .
This is totally consistent with what I've said. The lack of highways is why the DC Metro has so many riders and why they are currently making the very large expansion out to Dulles Airport. It's much much better than continuing to pave over everything with more highways.
If you want this taken to the extreme, go to Tokyo. There are very frew roads there given the population. What expressways there are,are perpetually clogged with traffic. On the other hand, 90% of the people there use trains to get where they need to go.
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