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Old 02-08-2016, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Originally Posted by LLN View Post
About the only things worse than people with an agenda ripping Cam Newton are those with an agenda making excuses.

Neither approach is very transparent.

Transparency is for losers.

 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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There is a guy on the Raleigh board who apparently wants Cam cut in favor of Johnny Manziel or Tim Tebow.
Or Big Ben even though he raped a woman
 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:43 PM
 
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Or Big Ben even though he raped a woman
yeah but he won 2 superbowls. so it's ok
 
Old 02-08-2016, 11:08 PM
 
Location: In the hot spot!
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Nope! They were a very good team, though.
 
Old 02-09-2016, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Mooresville, NC
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That's a fair point, they were ready to run Rivera off after a 3-7 start last year....Pro Football is still pretty new in the Carolinas, hopefully the fan base learns the nuances of the game. After yesterday I think they realize that it takes more to being a SB winning QB then cool dab moves . I hope Cam listens to B Romo and toughens up a bit
And maybe, just maybe, fans of other teams will not be petulant little kids and troll other message boards and try to be condescending? And just maybe, those same petulant little kids won't have to make multiple screen names (Keep It Simple) to just troll people. Don't think that just because the Panthers have only been around since '95 that the fans "need to learn the nuances of the game". LOL

Oh, btw, you're welcome for ending Romo's season again.
 
Old 02-09-2016, 06:19 AM
 
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You can style it any way you want.
Yes, they lost to a better team & probably laid an egg in their performance but Cam Newton also laid an egg on the field & afterwards in the media room.
A lot of folks who tuned in to see him out of curiosity now have their minds made up. It's difficult to undo a bad first impression.
I think most of the people bashing Cam now already didn't like him from a previous "first impression," and were just looking for something else to complain about.
 
Old 02-09-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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You can style it any way you want.
Yes, they lost to a better team & probably laid an egg in their performance but Cam Newton also laid an egg on the field & afterwards in the media room.
A lot of folks who tuned in to see him out of curiosity now have their minds made up. It's difficult to undo a bad first impression.
No, they did not lose to a better team, a good team but definitely not better. It took a perfect storm of events (turnovers, questionable calls, balls bouncing in their favor, special team errors and deer in head light coaching staff) for the Broncos to win, good for them. It was a trip watching the game because all the Bronco fans and anti-Cam wing nuts knew if not for a calamity of errors from the Panthers, the Broncos offense could prob manage maybe to put up 9 pts. Peyton and Co. got 20 pts against NE but the Panthers D is markedly better than NE. Whereas the Panthers easily left 10+ additional pts out there with bad schemes/play calling etc.

Anyone who has followed the past few years knows the Panthers modis operandi and strategy to win games: low-risk pass plays and get rid of ball to avoid sacks, punt and rely on D until the other team makes a miscue. Cam improved and the offense had better success but still had moments of inconsistency and lacked marquee player name production at wide receiver. In a sense, they got a bit caught up in the O hype and not true to their strategy...in all fairness, the O did look damn good at times but a fair amount of that success was created by an opportunistic D.

I wasn't worried about Cam taking sacks, ok cool they (Broncos) have a good D, but knew if he threw INTs (which he primarily avoided) or got sacked/fumbled the ball (or other TOs) was the only way the Broncos had a chance. Those two sacks/fumbles were the problems in my opinion, easier said than done but take the sack or throw the ball away. Other than a few high balls due to early game anxiety, plus several dropped balls, I thought Cam played an ok game under constant duress. If he doesn't fumble those balls (kudos to Von Miller), the entire game takes on a different feel...not saying the Panthers would have won, but Vegas and everybody else liked their chances.

Last edited by Big Aristotle; 02-09-2016 at 07:06 AM..
 
Old 02-09-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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i think most of the people bashing cam now already didn't like him from a previous "first impression," and were just looking for something else to complain about.
bingo!
 
Old 02-09-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Ok, this link is helping me relate to Cam a little more now...

Why you
Well.... why use facts when the media knows Cam has a lot of haters who will eat up their hot takes? instead of showing Cam congratulate Peyton on the field or answer 10 to 15 questions you have a bunch of former players and analyst trying to get their shine by ripping Cam a new one.

It's entertaining and it's part of what Cam signed up for... so he knows the deal.

He will be fine but even if Cam dove in the ball, answered every question with the glee of Russell Wilson after a loss they would still find one frown and play it over again and again to get that story.

Sports is like politics now where every move is up for debate on 24hr news cycles. Everyone acts like it's the end of the world and then a week from now, it's on to the draft and it starts all over again.
 
Old 02-09-2016, 08:18 AM
 
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No, they did not lose to a better team, a good team but definitely not better. It took a perfect storm of events (turnovers, questionable calls, balls bouncing in their favor, special team errors and deer in head light coaching staff) for the Broncos to win, good for them. It was a trip watching the game because all the Bronco fans and anti-Cam wing nuts knew if not for a calamity of errors from the Panthers, the Broncos offense could prob manage maybe to put up 9 pts. Peyton and Co. got 20 pts against NE but the Panthers D is markedly better than NE. Whereas the Panthers easily left 10+ additional pts out there with bad schemes/play calling etc.

Anyone who has followed the past few years knows the Panthers modis operandi and strategy to win games: low-risk pass plays and get rid of ball to avoid sacks, punt and rely on D until the other team makes a miscue. Cam improved and the offense had better success but still had moments of inconsistency and lacked marquee player name production at wide receiver. In a sense, they got a bit caught up in the O hype and not true to their strategy...in all fairness, the O did look damn good at times but a fair amount of that success was created by an opportunistic D.

I wasn't worried about Cam taking sacks, ok cool they (Broncos) have a good D, but knew if he threw INTs (which he primarily avoided) or got sacked/fumbled the ball (or other TOs) was the only way the Broncos had a chance. Those two sacks/fumbles were the problems in my opinion, easier said than done but take the sack or throw the ball away. Other than a few high balls due to early game anxiety, plus several dropped balls, I thought Cam played an ok game under constant duress. If he doesn't fumble those balls (kudos to Von Miller), the entire game takes on a different feel...not saying the Panthers would have won, but Vegas and everybody else liked their chances.
I think they lost to a better defense and a better ST's.

It's the little things that win or lose games like this and I think Denver has the better advantage when it came to offense vs defense.

and honestly, I think it's because Shula abandoned the option which was working and Stewart missing time early threw them off their game. The catch ruled an incompletion was huge as well. I heard NFL.com MUTED the announcers on the replay online because they all thought it was a catch.
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