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What HB2 would do - if it were even remotely enforceable, which it obviously isn't - is to make the presence of outwardly appearing male figures MORE commonplace in women's restrooms. In what way, precisely, is that supposed to make our wives and daughters safer, again?
Most of us agree that HB2 was just stupid, but what about the Charlotte law? Charlotte allowed convincing and not-so-convincing trans people to go where they wanted to. Safety of women and children isn't the real issue. My question is how come a trans woman (who still looks very manly) gets to sit down in a stall next to women? Those women are NOT unsafe in that situation, but are they comfortable in that situation? I can honestly see a line of angry women waiting outside public restrooms for the manly trans-woman to exit.
What HB2 would do - if it were even remotely enforceable, which it obviously isn't - is to make the presence of outwardly appearing male figures MORE commonplace in women's restrooms. In what way, precisely, is that supposed to make our wives and daughters safer, again?
It's not, but they aren't smart enough to understand that or they are banking on the public not being smart enough to figure it out, or a combination of both.
Most of us agree that HB2 was just stupid, but what about the Charlotte law? Charlotte allowed convincing and not-so-convincing trans people to go where they wanted to. Safety of women and children isn't the real issue. My question is how come a trans woman (who still looks very manly) gets to sit down in a stall next to women? Those women are NOT unsafe in that situation, but are they comfortable in that situation? I can honestly see a line of angry women waiting outside public restrooms for the manly trans-woman to exit.
I'm willing to bet that those "still very manly looking" trans women were already using the ladies' room.
Both the city ordinance AND the new state law are effectively unenforceable, unless we're going to create some sort of city/state agency to check, ahem, equipment prior to entering a restroom. Let's all pray that government NEVER gets that out of hand...
This is not a 2016 issue. Transgender people have been around longer than most people posting on this site. What is new is the issue being brought up with fear issues for those who believe anything talk radio gives them.. If people would do a little research on issues and think for themselves first and then if they still believe one side or the other so be it.
This is not a 2016 issue. Transgender people have been around longer than most people posting on this site. What is new is the issue being brought up with fear issues for those who believe anything talk radio gives them.. If people would do a little research on issues and think for themselves first and then if they still believe one side or the other so be it.
NEWSFLASH: It is a 2016 law.
If you live in Dallas, TX you should be 'good to go'.
This is not a 2016 issue. Transgender people have been around longer than most people posting on this site. What is new is the issue being brought up with fear issues for those who believe anything talk radio gives them.. If people would do a little research on issues and think for themselves first and then if they still believe one side or the other so be it.
No, the issue is basically the fact that the ordinance, with respect to the bathroom issue, was legislated based on a select group's comfort. However, it totally alienated the comforts of others who don't represent that selected group. Which is why the ordinance shouldn't have stood to begin with. Unfortunately, the law that countered it is just as flawed.
No, the issue is basically the fact that the ordinance, with respect to the bathroom issue, was legislated based on a select group's comfort. However, it totally alienated the comforts of others who don't represent that selected group. Which is why the ordinance shouldn't have stood to begin with.
The only thing the ordinance did was make it by-the-books legal for transgendered individuals to use the bathroom of the gender that they identified with. These people have been doing just that for quite some time - some people only became uncomfortable with it after they actually knew that this was happening - they were fine when they never noticed it before.
The only thing the ordinance did was make it by-the-books legal for transgendered individuals to use the bathroom of the gender that they identified with. These people have been doing just that for quite some time - some people only became uncomfortable with it after they actually knew that this was happening - they were fine when they never noticed it before.
and I'm sure there were times when women noticed some strong hands at the sink.
No one died
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