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Old 09-20-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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There is nothing redeeming about this whole incident...sad in every respect.

http://wbt.com/news/details.cfm?article_id=48024 (broken link)
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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its' all sad
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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This kind of stuff makes me wonder exactly where we are going collectively as a society. Seriously, I doubt this is nearly as shocking as it really should be. I've lost count of how many times a woman has been killed because her pregnancy was somehow inconvienent for the father. What kind of man sees murder as the "out" of an unwanted pregnancy?
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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This kind of stuff makes me wonder exactly where we are going collectively as a society. Seriously, I doubt this is nearly as shocking as it really should be. I've lost count of how many times a woman has been killed because her pregnancy was somehow inconvienent for the father. What kind of man sees murder as the "out" of an unwanted pregnancy?

I agree....

it is shocking that more aren't upset in the fact that someone of this age raped this young girl. Nothing shocks this society any longer and that is tragic.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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I agree....

it is shocking that more aren't upset in the fact that someone of this age raped this young girl. Nothing shocks this society any longer and that is tragic.
I think a lot of folks have been very disturbed about it. I haven't felt the situation was given enuff media attention, tho. I think there are thousands of folks in this city who found this a bigger issue to do with the foster care system, follow up on rape charges by PD and social services, etc. - and that it didn't just end with the fact that a young girl got killed and her baby died. There is so much more to it, as you indicate.

I have found myself contemplating this girl's life and how she was tossed around within the system . . . and I have wondered what we, as a community, can do to see that such situations never occur again.

The only thing I have come up with is that more of us need to volunteer as a Guardian ad Litem to the court to try to help protect children. I keep thinking - if only someone had stepped in . . .
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:19 PM
 
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I am wondering if the case could now be a double murder charge? What a POS he is.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:47 PM
 
Location: El Charlotte
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I am wondering if the case could now be a double murder charge? What a POS he is.
NN, the statute for 1st and 2nd degree murder is listed below. In NC there is not a murder charge for a fetus still in the mother. However, the homicide of the pregnant girl last, the baby was delivered alive and was at the hospital and sadly later died. I think, that this law below will apply to the living (no deceased) infant as well as the mother. So I think there will be two murder charges in this case.


NC Gen Stat § 14‑17. Murder in the first and second degree defined; punishment.
A murder which shall be perpetrated by means of a nuclear, biological, or chemical weapon of mass destruction as defined in G.S. 14‑288.21, poison, lying in wait, imprisonment, starving, torture, or by any other kind of willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing, or which shall be committed in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of any arson, rape or a sex offense, robbery, kidnapping, burglary, or other felony committed or attempted with the use of a deadly weapon shall be deemed to be murder in the first degree, a Class A felony, and any person who commits such murder shall be punished with death or imprisonment in the State's prison for life without parole as the court shall determine pursuant to G.S. 15A‑2000, except that any such person who was under 18 years of age at the time of the murder shall be punished with imprisonment in the State's prison for life without parole. All other kinds of murder, including that which shall be proximately caused by the unlawful distribution of opium or any synthetic or natural salt, compound, derivative, or preparation of opium, or cocaine or other substance described in G.S. 90‑90(1)d., or methamphetamine, when the ingestion of such substance causes the death of the user, shall be deemed murder in the second degree, and any person who commits such murder shall be punished as a Class B2 felon. (1893, cc. 85, 281; Rev., s. 3631; C.S., s. 4200; 1949, c. 299, s. 1; 1973, c. 1201, s. 1; 1977, c. 406, s. 1; 1979, c. 682, s. 6; 1979, c. 760, s. 5; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1251, ss. 1, 2; c. 1316, s. 47; 1981, c. 63, s. 1; c. 179, s. 14; c. 662, s. 1; 1987, c. 693; 1989, c. 694; 1993, c. 539, s. 112; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 21, s. 1; c. 22, s. 4; c. 24, s. 14(c); 2001‑470, s. 2; 2004‑178, s. 1; 2007‑81, s. 1.)

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