09-12-2012, 12:25 PM
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When a poster references not one but two overtly racist blog sites, is it then safe to assume said poster is a troll?
A link to DSLC can't be far behind.
09-12-2012, 12:34 PM
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When a poster references not one but two overtly racist blog sites, is it then safe to assume said poster is a troll?
A link to DSLC can't be far behind.
I don't know much about the crime site that posted the videos, but I believe whomever posted it has a right to describe the perpetrators of a crime by their physical appearance so that they may be identified and apprehended. If 3 Asian grandmas robbed a bank, it would be foolish to search for anything other than elderly Asian grandmas. Slimeballs come in all shapes and sizes, and I think most people have the sense to recognize that. It's a shame when people play the race card.
09-12-2012, 12:35 PM
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I have posted frequently about this issue over the past year and a half; you can look at my posting history to see what I had experienced on this issue during that time.
I was a 14 year resident of Chicago, spending most of that time living in East/Central Lakeview, as well as a few years spent over in the Bucktown/Wicker Park area. I moved to the area, from ohio, in 1998, and witnessed a lot of changes to the lakeview area. It had already mostly gentrified when I got there, but during the 2000's, I saw it become an even more amazing neighborhood, and got to live there during the era when a lot of people started wanting to move to the city and live in urban, walkable environments. I watched the neighborhood become this amazing place, attracting really great people, of all races.
Lakeview was (and mostly still is) an awesome neighborhood to live in. Same thing with Gold Coast and most parts of downtown. But as someone who loved living in Chicago, and who loves urban living, walkability, and nightlife, there have been some problems.
Yes, it is true, that most of those years, the area was VERY SAFE and there were rarely any major negatives to living there. Yes, there are bums/panhandlers, and yes there is the occasional crazy person who takes the Broadway bus down from Uptown, and stands on the street corner talking to himself. I dont have a problem with those people; they have always been there and most likely always will; I have no problem with that aspect of Lakeview. And yes, in any city, anywhere, you habve to have some degree of awareness and street smarts and to always watch out for muggers, etc.
At the end of 2008 I moved over to Wicker Park. Then in 2011 I decided I wanted to move back to Lakeview. I moved into an apartment at Belmont and Sheffield, and as soon as I moved in,
I noticed something had changed in the area. Every night, there were large packs of black "youth", who would walk up and down Belmont and up and down Halsted. I have NO PROBLEMS with people of other race or color. But, for some reason, these large groups of kids that were now "hanging around" the area, had a hostile presence, a mean, confrontational attitude, and seemed like there were looking to fight or looking for trouble. They would block the sidewalks (a misdemeanor), act roudy/loud (misdemeanor), fight with each other (reckless behaviour, a misdemeanor), bully/intimidate people on the sidewalk (misdemeanor), on and on, every obnoxious rude behaviour you could think of, these kids were enagaging in it. It was NIGHTLY. The groups are also known for stabbing each other (has happened on many occasions, too many to count, there is even a video on youtube), but are also known for robbing innocent people walking by, both men and women (check the police records from when people call the cops from being mugged, its all on the internet). They particularly like to steal people's iphones, then jump on the Red Line and head back to their neighborhood. There is simply not enough police anymore to stop these idiots from basically terrorizing the area. The area that seems plagued with these problems is the part of the Belmont Corridor, from Sheffield down to Halsted, and then from there, up Halsted all the way to at Grace Street. Drive thru there at night, around 11pm, and you will see them; they hang out in packs of 5 to 20 and they like to block the sidewalk and menace people. How do I know this is all real? Because I lived right in the middle of it all for 1 year.
Also, three guys in my building (all of whom were gay) were beaten up by these groups of kids.
As the summer of 2011 went on, the violence got worse. Beatings, muggings, drug dealing; mean people, who dont live in the neighborhood, roaming the streets of Lakeview, looking for trouble.
When school went back into session in the fall of 2011, things quieted down a little bit, but there were still problems at night. You would still see the packs of kids, roaming up and down Belmont, roaming up and down Halsted. Some nights were better than others. Weekends were still bad. Like the other poster mentioned, I have seen kids jump on other people's cars, sit on the hoods, DANCE on the hoods (!!!) etc. the amount of riff-raff walking the streets in the Belmont/Halsted area now, is just insane. You dont even want to go there at night anymore, its awful.
During that time, Gold Coast also had similar issues; wildings taking place at night, etc. during Memorial Day weekend, the police had to shut down North Avenue beach, because large packs of gang bangers had taken over the beach and the bike path, and were fighting with each other....beating up innocent bicyclists, etc. After that weekend was when it seemed like everything went down the tubes for Lakeview and Gold Coast.
This past spring, I decided I had had enough, and took a job transfer to Dallas. So I am no longer living in Chicago. But I keep tabs on what has been going on there, and everything seems like it is WORSE than last year. Beatings, muggings, apartment break ins, you name it, lakeview/Gold Coast has been plagued with these problems. One of the worst areas right now, is the area right off the Chicago Ave El Stop. Almost every night, DOZENS of kids would come pouring out of the El stop. They like to hang out around the msdonalds there, and they sort of "own" the sidewalk there...same element as I described above...pushing, shoving, forcing pedestrians off the sidewalk into traffic, etc.
Yes, it is true, that the media is being asked by the Mayor's office, to not cover the crimes, or to downplay them. The media did, however, cover the WRIGLEYVILLE THROAT SLASHING. Oh yeah, the other posters on this site dont want me to bring that up, but YEAH...an individual brought a machete to lakeview one night, and decided to slash the throat of a yuppie out walking his dog....just like Jason from Friday the 13th!! He lived, but now has a scar on his throat! Dont believe me? Here is the link to the news report:
Wrigleyville Man's Throat Slashed in Random Attack | NBC Chicago
09-12-2012, 12:36 PM
Location: Chicago
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I don't know much about the crime site that posted the videos, but I believe whomever posted it has a right to describe the perpetrators of a crime by their physical appearance so that they may be identified and apprehended. If 3 Asian grandmas robbed a bank, it would be foolish to search for anything other than elderly Asian grandmas. Slimeballs come in all shapes and sizes, and I think most people have the sense to recognize that. It's a shame when people play the race card.
It's time to go troll some other forum. I think your welcome here is about worn out.
09-12-2012, 12:36 PM
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Wow. I never go to North avenue beach. Too many people with to many problems.
Lets see a posting of White mobs on St. Patrick day in Wrigleyville.
Scarry!
09-12-2012, 12:38 PM
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Reason: Never mind. I agree re: the troll.
09-12-2012, 12:40 PM
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"O hai everyone. I'm thinking of moving to Chicago, but I hear there are a lot of black people who attack whites. Is this true? Should I move despite the constant threat of negro violence? I'd appreciate your feedback. Oh, here go some links from racist websites about the bad things the bad coloreds have done. Discuss."
09-12-2012, 12:41 PM
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I don't know much about the crime site that posted the videos, but I believe whomever posted it has a right to describe the perpetrators of a crime by their physical appearance so that they may be identified and apprehended. If 3 Asian grandmas robbed a bank, it would be foolish to search for anything other than elderly Asian grandmas. Slimeballs come in all shapes and sizes, and I think most people have the sense to recognize that. It's a shame when people play the race card.
Oops, I spoke too soon in defending you. Now I agree that you're a troll. Bye bye.
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"O hai everyone. I'm thinking of moving to Chicago, but I hear there are a lot of black people who attack whites. Is this true? Should I move despite the constant threat of negro violence? I'd appreciate your feedback. Oh, here go some links from racist websites about the bad things the bad coloreds have done. Discuss."
Yep, that about sums it up.
09-12-2012, 12:42 PM
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Relax. It's a city. Things happen from time to time and yes, every once in awhile downtown someone gets mugged, and sometimes some people up to no good happen to go to the beach and get into trouble. How is that different from almost any other big city? Please listen to the people who live here and are out every single day. I hate seeing crime, but I hardly ever see any crime in these neighborhoods. I've seen more crimes being committed in suburbs before than in these places.
I have nothing to gain by telling you so and so neighborhood is safe and you don't have much to worry about. It's an internet forum for god's sake and I'm not giving any advice on particular buildings to live in. If you can't handle the fact that things happen every once in awhile in areas, then you should reconsider city life.
09-12-2012, 12:57 PM
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This past spring, I decided I had had enough, and took a job transfer to Dallas. So I am no longer living in Chicago.
Hi smartgxl,
Too bad you didn't think of other great neighborhoods like Hydepark or Southloop. The drug, prostitution and huge bar culture has taken it toll on Lakeview. The problem is far greater than Black youth.
Good luck in your new city.
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Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)