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Old 10-03-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Jefferson Park Chicago, IL
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Chicago Leads U.S. Cities In Largest Influx Of Downtown Residents, U.S. Census Report Shows
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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Default Saw that last week, no surprise...

The massive overbuilding that developers did in the "boom" means that there is an excess of residential units. Long term the fallout could be a positive or negative. Right now the folks on the upside down side of condo values are suffering...

(the news item I saw last week was from one of Crain's real estate email newsletters, I prefer that to HuffPo...)

Also no surprise that place like Cicero, Elmwood Park, Oak Lawn/Park and other of "Chicago's inner suburbs experienced a significant population decline".
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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Why did Huff Po cherry pick? Downtown Chicago saw a huge percentage gain, true and AWESOME, but they're not the most. St. Louis' downtown population increased 350+% between 2000 and 2010 (easy to do when you had so few to begin with obviously!). I first assumed they were only talking about the largest cities, but then they listed Dayton, OH in their losses section.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:35 AM
 
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Default What? HuffPo showing media bias???

No! Shocked! Shocked I say!

Hey before things "changed" Chicago was "fly over" territory to the media elites at HuffPo. If you can get 'em to beleive MO means "more Obama" maybe they'll focus on St. Louis...

In fairness (something they no nothing of...) I believe the combination of relatively healthy population to begin with gives Chicago a big edge in terms of absolute numbers, not just percentage gain.

Depending on how that is managed it could have far ranging impacts.

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Why did Huff Po cherry pick? Downtown Chicago saw a huge percentage gain, true and AWESOME, but they're not the most. St. Louis' downtown population increased 350+% between 2000 and 2010 (easy to do when you had so few to begin with obviously!). I first assumed they were only talking about the largest cities, but then they listed Dayton, OH in their losses section.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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I think Missouri is getting all the attention it can get with this Akin nonsense. That guy is the worst.

Anyway, Huff Po is a blog and of course shows a bias -- especially because they don't have a big editorial staff -- more just guests writers who op/ed on anything they think of at the moment.

I don't know that we need to make their political leanings more relevant to this conversation than they are; I just think it's a weird "article."
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Bay Area
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Just think, they used a two mile radius of city hall as the area limits, and how much of this was encompassed by the lake?
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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Yeah 2 miles within city hall is pretty marginal really.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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Ohhh I should have read the original Marketwatch article. I don't think I understand their definition of "downtown" -- clearly thats a big part of the issue. And then that article mentions that it's metro areas of 5 million plus. Anyway ...
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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...Anyway, Huff Po is a blog and of course shows a bias -- especially because they don't have a big editorial staff -- more just guests writers who op/ed on anything they think of at the moment...
No! Shocked! Shocked, I say, to whoever thought a blog was ever a reputable source for news when it favored their view, and discounted it as "bias" when it didn't!

Blog = Web + Log = Internet + "Dear Diary..."


Back on topic: I saw that too (along with the City Hall bit). I could very well be a part of future statistics if the numbers are right. It would make my commute a whole lot easier. Plus, living in the Loop (or two miles from the Daley Center/City Hall, per the article) affords much more opportunity to go different places in the city. The trains are set up to radiate out from there, buses to a lesser extent. Plenty of times I have wanted to go to Pilsen to get some delicious food, but being where I am currently, that means a very long train ride, or a train ride and a very long bus ride.

Living in the Loop cuts the distance/time to anywhere, almost in half. That's a positive in my book.

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Old 10-03-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Bay Area
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The trains are set up to radiate out from there, buses to a lesser extent. Plenty of times I have wanted to go to Pilsen to get some delicious food, but being where I am currently, that means a very long train ride, or a train ride and a very long bus ride.

Living in the Loop cuts the distance/time to anywhere, almost in half. That's a positive in my book.
Well, that would be silly. You should just hop in your 4x4 SUV and drive there.
That way the city can ticket you for parking and get some revenue.

/sarcasm
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