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Originally Posted by julian17033

No like the Republican party in parts of PA.

Touche'

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by SCCP

There was an "Irish Mob" in the Chicago Code... which was about as realistic as the span of Alderman Gibbons' Chinatown-to-North-Side (and plenty in between) ward.

The Irish Mob refers more to guys in politics and government who have "grandfathered" connections to organized crime.

It's like a 7 degrees of separation thing.

[SCCP]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

The Irish Mob refers more to guys in politics and government who have "grandfathered" connections to organized crime.

It's like a 7 degrees of separation thing.

That would make sense, but in the Chicago Code, the Chicago "Irish Mob" was a real organization of Irish-American gangsters. The Chicago Code was entertaining, but unrealistic in many ways... so I couldn't resist a little dig.

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by SCCP

That would make sense, but in the Chicago Code, the Chicago "Irish Mob" was a real organization of Irish-American gangsters. The Chicago Code was entertaining, but unrealistic in many ways... so I couldn't resist a little dig.

Oh sure, I gave up after watching it once or twice, total drek.

Really, The Wire now sets the standard for that topic/ programming.

We netflixed the 1st season of Boss, which was surprisingly good - can't wait for season 2.

[Fear&Whiskey]

Originally Posted by SCCP

That would make sense, but in the Chicago Code, the Chicago "Irish Mob" was a real organization of Irish-American gangsters. The Chicago Code was entertaining, but unrealistic in many ways... so I couldn't resist a little dig.

What about the Hogans? Couldn't they easily have been described as an Irish mob? It seems that 'The Chicago Code' got a little unfair criticism. The Hogans had political connections and were said to be involved in violence and intimidation to tighten the grip of their control of the Union.

This is an article about organised crime that references the Hogans and wasn't that the general portrayal of the Irish mob in Chicago? Crimes that were more linked to insurance scam, building contracts and abuse of privileged access to the corridors of power?

Quotes from this piece include: "The attending scandal, the 74-count federal indictment and conviction of a top Local 714 union steward named David P. Kaye on charges of labor shakedowns, undermined the credibility of the "Hogan family Local" as labor people call it.

Daye served a prison term in Florida for the attempted murder of an African-American man who refused to carry our a direct order to kill a Miami laundermat owner. At the time, before graduation to the hierarchy of the Hogan Local 714, Kaye was an organizer for the International Laundry Workers Union, an organization that according to sworn testimony hired young black men to hurl rocks at laundry trucks. When Kaye's victim refused to carry out the order he was shot five times and beaten to within an inch of his life. Miraculously he survived and his testimony put Kaye behind bars".

http://www.ipsn.org/movies.php

I wouldn't say it would be too much of a stretch of the imagination to describe the Hogans or the Duffs as 'organised crime'. In that respect I thought critics were a little harsh on 'The Chicago Code'. I enjoy Chicago set shows and don't think the Irish mob storyline was that unrealistic.



If the hoods were gangbanging on street corners and shooting it out with Latinos and black gangs then of course it would have been unrealistic. But in Chicago the Outfit and Irish mob are seen as on a different level to street gangs shooting out or slinging crack.