03-15-2008, 04:27 PM
Location: Henderson
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Hello all! I've been reading extensively here and while I have found a lot of useful information, I'd still like some opinions on our situation.
We rent in Logan Square, but are looking to buy. We like Logan Square (except we aren't in walking distance to a park). This is what we are looking for (kind of in order of importance), do you think it's possible?
1) We would prefer SFH because we would like to garden (if we had to go to a community garden instead of back yard I doubt we'd end up doing so).
2) We need at least decent schools (4th grade on), preferably ethnically/racially mixed, not predominately anything.
3) We need at least 3 bedrooms and 1.5 baths.
4) We are looking for 250,000 or less. This is pretty easily affordable for us. We could go higher, but keeping at this price will make it affordable (barely) if we lose our lower income job. This "safety net" is important to us. Maybe it's better to say we are looking at $1800 a month or less including taxes.
5) Preferably walking distance (< 1 mile) to a park.
6) We would like to be in somewhat of an "urban neighborhood" preferably in the city. Meaning, if we want to go for a walk in the evening we'd like to have restaurants, music venues and locally owned stores to walk around/go to. Like how the shopping/eating areas of Lincoln Square, Roscoe Village, Wicker Park and Logan Square are. And getting to the conservatory, or lakefront, or museum isn't a hassle.
7) Public transportation to downtown in walking distance would be really nice.
I know this is a long list, and maybe this is why I'm having trouble focusing on an area. We've looked at Evanston (in an area that is not great, not terrible), Portage Park area and the surrounding neighborhoods. Personally I'd be interested in getting into Humbolt Park, but the schools aren't good enough. The housing in Berwyn also interests me, but I'm not sure about the parks and neighborhood feel, and it's a little further out. Am I missing some great neighborhood somewhere? Elmwood Park maybe?
If I had more $$ we'd have it made, but isn't that what everyone else says?
03-15-2008, 09:52 PM
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Be realistic!
From reading your post it sounds as if you are not familiar with Chicago at all.
The entire city of Chicago is "urban" some areas more than others.
You're looking for a 3 bedroom SFH for $250K/$1800 in Chicago. good luck.
My advice would be to get a Realtor to work with. Let them find eveything you're looking for and all you have to do is go visit. You're putting waaaay to much stress on yourself with this. The home buying process can be a bit much and that's understandable. But get a realtor first and she/he can help you find what you're after and also help you create a more realistic "list"
Good luck
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03-15-2008, 10:41 PM
Location: Henderson
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Thanks for the reply ChicagoRon. I guess what I meant by 'urban' was that I don't want to move to a place that is more car friendly then walking friendly, which Berwyn seems like it might be. I've only lived in the city a couple of years, but I wouldn't say I don't know it at all.
I pretty much realize I can't get all of these, but am not sure how much I can. Maybe if we can give up one, we can get the others. Maybe there is a neighborhood I haven't thought of that has decent schools in our price range. That is why I posted here. To get some more ideas.
We have seen places in this range, mostly short sale and foreclosures. Still reading up on those processes to see if they are worth the risk, but so far I'm thinking probably not.
We do plan to work with a realtor, but haven't chosen one yet. And I don't like to depend on someone else 100%. I like to do some research myself as well. It can be stressful, but I enjoy it as well.
Anyway, thanks again, I appreciate you taking the time to reply!
03-16-2008, 01:39 AM
Location: Chicago
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SFH for 250 or less? And 3 bedrooms at that? Unless you like ducking bullets at night, you're not going to find that in this town. Nonetheless, something to consider is if you buy a condo in a small building such as a 2 or 3 flat with a common back yard, your neighbors probably won't mind if you garden the common area; in fact they may thank you.
03-16-2008, 09:55 AM
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Thanks for the condo idea Drover, we will definitely consider it!
03-16-2008, 12:28 PM
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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most chicago schools suck
13blackcats,
With few exceptions, the public schools are lousy. In Logan Square you would be near Lane Tech, which is a great school. Whitney Young is also good near the United Center.
Your budget of 250m is low for a single family and since this is your first purchase I would not recommend a foreclosure or short sale. The condo idea may work witha shared garden, depending on the building. It just depends how much space you are looking for and whether or not you go frame or masonry on the structure which will dictate you price point.
You mentioned Elmwood Park as well so I assume you don't have to be in the city. Where will you be working and where do you want to live. Based upon your work other posters can better recommend where to live.
03-19-2008, 09:52 PM
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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Thanks for the reply ChicagoRon. I guess what I meant by 'urban' was that I don't want to move to a place that is more car friendly then walking friendly, which Berwyn seems like it might be. I've only lived in the city a couple of years, but I wouldn't say I don't know it at all.
I pretty much realize I can't get all of these, but am not sure how much I can. Maybe if we can give up one, we can get the others. Maybe there is a neighborhood I haven't thought of that has decent schools in our price range. That is why I posted here. To get some more ideas.
We have seen places in this range, mostly short sale and foreclosures. Still reading up on those processes to see if they are worth the risk, but so far I'm thinking probably not.
We do plan to work with a realtor, but haven't chosen one yet. And I don't like to depend on someone else 100%. I like to do some research myself as well. It can be stressful, but I enjoy it as well.
Anyway, thanks again, I appreciate you taking the time to reply!
I wouldn't say Berwyn is more car friendly than walk friendly. It's very much like a city neighborhood, with a majority of the housing stock being Chicago Bungalows on 35 foot wide lots. All areas of the community are served by public transit -- the CTA Blue Line in the north, the CTA Pink Line in the center and the Metra in the south, with several bus routes too. There are also several parks, with Proksa being the best.
I've lived in several City neighborhoods, including Logan Square, and we're comfortable here. It's a really nice mix of city and suburb, IMHO.
And you could easily get a Chicago Bungalow here for $250k or less, and wouldn't have to duck bullets in the night
We've lived her 5 years and have had 0 problems. The house may need some updating, but you can do that over time, and get exactly what you want at the end.
As to foreclosures, this greatly depends. The market is such right now that I don't think you'd have to go to this level to get a good solid house in your price range. There are definitely good deals to be had on the foreclosure front but if I were looking at such a crib, I'd get it very throughly inspected, and I certainly wouldn't try to take on any "basket case." Costs can add up fast with a poorly maintained house and your "great deal" could become a bad deal very quickly.
03-19-2008, 10:16 PM
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I think you ought to at least look at Hyde Park. However for 250K we're talking condo money in that area. For a SFH, maybe in South Shore for that amount. Maybe in Evergreen Park or Oak Lawn.
03-20-2008, 10:24 AM
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I think you ought to at least look at Hyde Park. However for 250K we're talking condo money in that area. For a SFH, maybe in South Shore for that amount. Maybe in Evergreen Park or Oak Lawn.
Hyde Park is great, but very $$$$$. I'm not sure you can get a decent-sized 3-BR for $250,000 there.
03-20-2008, 11:32 AM
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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Hyde Park is great, but very $$$$$. I'm not sure you can get a decent-sized 3-BR for $250,000 there.
Probably in Evergreen Park and Oak Lawn though, if she wants to live south.
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People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)