Chicago makes list at #10 as Top Cities in the World for 2018 in new listings. (murder rate, drive)

[BRU67]

Originally Posted by Chicago South Sider

The bottom line is that Chicago is losing population and the MSA is stagnant or declining. That's pretty much it.

Obviously true, though if you just look at it that way, you miss the mind boggling segregation we have going on here. If it seems like I'm complaining about it, it's just that I'm really fascinated by it, especially from a City that prides itself on being so liberal.

[Chicago South Sider]

Originally Posted by BRU67

Obviously true, though if you just look at it that way, you miss the mind boggling segregation we have going on here. If it seems like I'm complaining about it, it's just that I'm really fascinated by it, especially from a City that prides itself on being so liberal.

Chicago is the most segregated, racist city in the developed world. It's not a very sophisticated place. It is what it is.

[knitgirl]

Originally Posted by BRU67

Obviously true, though if you just look at it that way, you miss the mind boggling segregation we have going on here. If it seems like I'm complaining about it, it's just that I'm really fascinated by it, especially from a City that prides itself on being so liberal.

I don't think the city prides itself on being liberal. Yeah, there are liberals, but mainly in the well-off north side neighborhoods. Lots of old school Democrats who aren't liberals in the rest of the city.

[Raging Hellfire]

Originally Posted by BRU67

Or your economic circumstances and where you live in Chicago. If you are looking at it from the viewpoint of an affluent person living in one of the good north side or gentrified neighborhoods, I actually think that Chicago is ranked too low on this list. It probably should be in the top 5, not the top 10.

If you are poor and living in one of the south and west side neighborhoods which are on our own top 10 list (in violent crime), then Chicago would probably be down there. Englewood's murder rate of about 63 per 100,000 blows away urban gems such as Guatemala, Guatemala (52/100k), Tijuana, Mexico (53/100k), Cali, Columbia (54/100k), Salvador, Brazil (54/100k), Cumana, Venezuela (59/100k), and St. Louis (60/100k).

You might as well be living in a favela in the worst part of Rio if you're in one of those areas, with the sole advantage being a flushing toilet and water you don't have to carry up the hill and into the house!

That wouldn't surprise me. You've apparently ignored Chicago's murder rate (which is much lower than all the cities you mentioned apart from St. Louis) and compared Chicago neighborhoods instead with entire cities where mostly the stats aren't even accurate?

[GWTJ]

Originally Posted by DavePa

The list of World's Best Cities for 2018.
Ranking of quality of place, reputation and competitive identity.

https://www.bestcities.org/rankings/worlds-best-cities/

What it says about Chicago at #10

https://www.bestcities.org/rankings/...ities/chicago/

In rankings where Chicago was in categories.

https://www.bestcities.org/your-best-cities/

Museums #6
Universities #6
Entertainment #6
Reputation #11
Nightlife #12
Shopping #12
Culture #12
Restaurants #12

The ranking evaluates each qualifying city across the six pillars of place equity:
Place , Product, Programming, People, Prosperity, Promotion.

https://www.bestcities.org/methodology/

List of Top 50-cities

1. London
2. New York
3. Paris
4. Moscow
5. Tokyo
6. Singapore
7. Dubai
8. Barcelona
9. San Francisco
10. Chicago
11. Madrid
12. Los Angeles
13. Toronto
14. Amsterdam
15. Boston
16. Rome
17. Hong Kong
18. Las Vegas
19. Seattle
20. San Diego
21. Washington D.C.
22. Saint Petersburg
23. Prague
24. Beijing
25. Sydney
26. San Jose, U.S.
27. Miami
28. Berlin
29. Vancouver
30. Orlando
31. Houston
32. Zurich
33. Frankfurt
34. Calgary
35. Munich
36. Seoul
37. Denver
38. Melbourne
39. Portland
40. Milan
41. Montreal
42. Dallas
43. Dublin
44. Austin
45. Istanbul
46. Brisbane
47. Minneapolis
48. Vienna
49. Atlanta
50. Brussels

They didn't consider whether you were murdered or not as important.

[midwest1]

Tokyo is losing population as well. Having said that, Seoul at 36? Makes this poll quite suspect. As a Chicagoan who spent 17 years in Seoul, after a few in Tokyo, Seoul is one of the top, and I mean TOP global cities on every metric.

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by Chicago South Sider

The bottom line is that Chicago is losing population and the MSA is stagnant or declining. That's pretty much it.

I'd be somewhat surprised if Chicago posted a loss between the official 2010 and 2020 census.

[BRU67]

Originally Posted by Raging Hellfire

That wouldn't surprise me. You've apparently ignored Chicago's murder rate (which is much lower than all the cities you mentioned apart from St. Louis) and compared Chicago neighborhoods instead with entire cities where mostly the stats aren't even accurate?

I don't understand what you're trying to say. I cited St. Louis and it's murder rate is way higher than Chicago, not lower. I agree that Chicago's overall murder rate is much lower than those other cities I mentioned. I never said it wasn't. I said the nicest parts of Chicago rival the top cities in the world.

But Chicago is so segregated and crime and quality of life is so different between the north side affluent and gentrified neighborhoods from the poorest neighborhoods that it is completely worthless to look at the total murder rate when you're talking about Chicago. Of course the overall rate looks better than many cities, including many in the U.S., because the extreme violence in about 7 of our Community Areas gets diluted by the other 70, many of which are highly affluent and have few homicides.

But if you look at those highest crime community areas individually, you will see that they are comparable to the worst cities in the world in terms of homicide rates - cities infested with drug cartels. So you're saying let's just dilute that by absorbing it into the overall number and pretend it doesn't exist? LOL! You can do that in your own mind. I'm certainly not going to.

[Hkhan21]

Wow people actually put us above LA

[Alacran]

It's not just the city but the state and its unfriendliness to business.