San Francisco to Chicago - neighborhoods (Richmond, Royal: apartments, buyer, theater)

[LakeShoreSoxGo]

Originally Posted by coldwine

Look, I didn't want to be the one to say it. No one could ever say I, of all people, like to vulgarly shout out unpleasant truths.

But come on. Which part of San Francisco isn't Hipster Central? It's the most hipster place on the planet.

LoL I was thinking the same thing but I was just not gonna go there... though bay fair and hunters point and deep china town come to mind as hipster free. But you could blink and you wouldn't know you'd went through those neighborhoods.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by coldwine

Which part of San Francisco isn't Hipster Central?

Pacific Heights.

[coldwine]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

Pacific Heights.

Oh they are so hipster too. Pacific Heights is where you go when you're older and no longer part of the hipster party scene. They still jog with iPods and have that insufferable hipster attitude towards retail.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by coldwine

Oh they are so hipster too. Pacific Heights is where you go when you're older and no longer part of the hipster party scene. They still jog with iPods and have that insufferable hipster attitude towards retail.

They're too rich and old to be hipsters. You can't even call them Bobos. They are beyond the Bourgeoisie.

[LakeShoreSoxGo]

Twin peaks is actually more the too old too rich to be hipster crowd out there. I second coldwine, pac heights is more like "hey i actually went to college in the 80's".

[coldwine]

Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo

Twin peaks is actually more the too old too rich to be hipster crowd out there. I second coldwine, pac heights is more like "hey i actually went to college in the 80's".

Hah

Pacific Heights is to SF what Royal Oak is to Ann Arbor.

[hsw]

Pac Hts (or Presidio Hts) is a weird, rapidly changing mix

Many (?most) of the new buyers (who will gut and rebuild any house) are <40yo, often single, financial or tech guys, either workaholics or semi-retired guys like ex-google, etc....who are generally car guys (so massive underground garages are put under the houses)....and also have wkend places in LA for better weather and nightlife

Lots of newly-built wkend "city houses" for wealthy, >40yo married w/kids people who primarily live in Woodside or Atherton and work in Silicon Valley

And many old, POS houses (w/o air conditioning, likely to crumble in any quake, etc) owned by some WASP codger who has little net worth (though his grandpa may have) and hates all the new money from Silicon Valley that isn't "from SF"...but will be sold to some young techie/hedgie for teardown upon death of codger

Suspect dynamics aren't all that different from those of the many new mansions built over past 10 yrs in dubious parts of LincPk....Silicon Valley just has had far more new wealth creation over past 15 yrs than anywhere in US (only rival is Greenwich), esp vs a more stagnant Chic economy (aside from a handful of hedgies who are Citadel alums)

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by coldwine

Hah

Pacific Heights is to SF what Royal Oak is to Ann Arbor.

Ann ****ing Arbor? WTF? That place is irrelevant.

I stand by my statement. A rich 30-something dot-commer that cashed out before the crash and has a place in Pacific Heights is not a hipster. But perhaps we have different definitions of hipster in mind...

[LakeShoreSoxGo]

I don't know how much you get out that way to SF but yea they are crawling with over 30 hipsters. Here check out hipster bingo:

http://www.catbirdseat.org/catbirdseat/bingo.html

Another poster put it this way about SF, too many generation Xers, still trying to party like its 1999.

[aragx6]

Originally Posted by hsw

Pac Hts (or Presidio Hts) is a weird, rapidly changing mix

Many (?most) of the new buyers (who will gut and rebuild any house) are <40yo, often single, financial or tech guys, either workaholics or semi-retired guys like ex-google, etc....who are generally car guys (so massive underground garages are put under the houses)....and also have wkend places in LA for better weather and nightlife

Lots of newly-built wkend "city houses" for wealthy, >40yo married w/kids people who primarily live in Woodside or Atherton and work in Silicon Valley

And many old, POS houses (w/o air conditioning, likely to crumble in any quake, etc) owned by some WASP codger who has little net worth (though his grandpa may have) and hates all the new money from Silicon Valley that isn't "from SF"...but will be sold to some young techie/hedgie for teardown upon death of codger

Suspect dynamics aren't all that different from those of the many new mansions built over past 10 yrs in dubious parts of LincPk....Silicon Valley just has had far more new wealth creation over past 15 yrs than anywhere in US (only rival is Greenwich), esp vs a more stagnant Chic economy (aside from a handful of hedgies who are Citadel alums)

My god, I've missed you.