Did I hear this right? 63 shootings over the weekend? (Chicago: section 8, crime)

[rockinrolla]

Originally Posted by lenniel

What's funny is that Jesse, Rev Al, Rev Wright and Fr. Flager will now hold a guns/violence protest at city hall denouncing all the gun violence. They will be followed by a few hundred people from the hood holding signs, wearing RIP t-shirts, etc.
In reality, these people know who are in the gangs, they know who has the guns, but they don't do anything about it.
This cycle of violence/ghetto life will continue to perpetuate itself until the culture is changed, not the laws (the gun laws are already on the books and obviously aren't having much of an impact).

Yep, true true.

[Costa Rica Chica]

Operation Ceasefire, a non profit that works to control violence on the west side, recently lost 7 of its ten workers because of budget cuts and gun violence escalated. The last time they lost workers, the same thing happened. It is a vicious cycle, and totally sad. A lot of the victims are innocent - people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, children. It's horrible that this cannot be controlled.

[Costa Rica Chica]

Originally Posted by lenniel

This cycle of violence/ghetto life will continue to perpetuate itself until the culture is changed, not the laws (the gun laws are already on the books and obviously aren't having much of an impact).

Yup - I totally agree with you there.

[rockinrolla]

2 words: storm troopers.

[ChiMack]

Originally Posted by Costa Rica Chica

Operation Ceasefire, a non profit that works to control violence on the west side, recently lost 7 of its ten workers because of budget cuts and gun violence escalated. The last time they lost workers, the same thing happened. It is a vicious cycle, and totally sad. A lot of the victims are innocent - people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, children. It's horrible that this cannot be controlled.

and some of those guys were actually still in gangs, some of those guys in cease fire were active members of the Spanish Cobras, and of those guys was a high ranking member of the Cobras who the jury awarded 21 million dollars, what do you think that willdo for that gang

[prairiestate]

Originally Posted by Chicago60614

Regardless of horrible areas on the west and south side, the city as a whole is MUCH better than it has been in decades.

Really? Then why is there gang graffiti all over the far southwest side that didn't exist even five years ago? Why have there been multiple gang related shootings on the far southwest side over the past few years? That also wasn't happening as recently as five years ago. Why did Oak Lawn just start a full time gang unit? No, it's not really dangerous out here, but current trends are not good.

[surlycue]

Originally Posted by prairiestate

Really? Then why is there gang graffiti all over the far southwest side that didn't exist even five years ago? Why have there been multiple gang related shootings on the far southwest side over the past few years? That also wasn't happening as recently as five years ago. Why did Oak Lawn just start a full time gang unit? No, it's not really dangerous out here, but current trends are not good.

Because gentrification and the razing of several project highrises have forced low income and problem people to places with cheap rent. Check out the blotters for the southwest suburbs when you get a chance. There are many more gang related offenses there then there were 5 years ago.

[prairiestate]

Originally Posted by surlycue

Because gentrification and the razing of several project highrises have forced low income and problem people to places with cheap rent. Check out the blotters for the southwest suburbs when you get a chance. There are many more gang related offenses there then there were 5 years ago.

I know. I live there, and that's my point to all these people who keep insisting that the city is safer then ever if you just avoid much of the south and west sides. I'm not living in fear, but I think I have some reasonable cause for concern.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by prairiestate

I know. I live there, and that's my point to all these people who keep insisting that the city is safer then ever if you just avoid much of the south and west sides. I'm not living in fear, but I think I have some reasonable cause for concern.

They city overall is safer.
Not your neighborhood.
500 homocides last year...
900 in the 90s...

Ya' know what I mean?

[Venom]

Originally Posted by Gioobag

I wonder what the shootings totals were if the suburbs were included?

Pretty soon the burbs will be the ghettos.