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Are you understanding the spiritual implication to the fact of what a New Adam is?
So ANYWAY, we are to seek this new Adam, BUT WHY UNLESS we are still a part of the old Adam?
Jesus came OBVIOUSLY because of the fall of Adam which is a spirit in everyone born and this is easily proven from THE FACTS THAT WE IN FACT, NEED A NEW ADAM.
BUT WHAT IS SO VERY FLAWED WITH THESE ESOTERIC IDEAS OF ACTUALLY NEEDING A NEW ADAM? I MEAN ADAM WAS An ADAM AND SO WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH JESUS AND THE FACT THAT HUMANITY NEEDED A NEW ADAM?
obviously we were ALL BORN with a fallen spirit that had effects in our life from being a fallen guilding spirit.
OBVIOUSLY we were born in the spirit of Adam leading us, and So OBVIOUSLY we needed a new Adam.
A NEW GUIDING SPRIRT, and so who will come out and say that the old Adam is IN FACT a part of what we are, and if he wouldn't have been a part of who we are, we would not have any need for a New Adam if the old Adam that still dwells within us is the greatest miracle of the bible.
People should be so lucky as to actually obtain the spirit of an old Adam, and to walk in that spirit to come to the realization of the fact that they need a New Adam.
first thanks for the response. second, this is nothing, but I'll refute it by scripture.
#1. U said, "Are you understanding the spiritual implication to the fact of what a New Adam is?"
There is no such thing as a NEW ADAM. listen. 2 Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new". and we don't know what we will be but we will be like him. scripture, 1 John 3:2 "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is". understand, there are two man/men. the outward man that perish 2 Corinthians 4:16 "For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day". see, Adam means "ANOTHER" H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
this another is flesh and bone, with blood.
the NEW MAN, the INWARD MAN is Ephesians 4:24 "And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness".
understand NO new Adam.
the NEW MAN is renewed in.....Colossians 3:10 "And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him". not a Adam, or outward man, but the INWARD MAN made new.
#2. U said, "Jesus came OBVIOUSLY because of the fall of Adam which is a spirit in everyone born and this is easily proven from THE FACTS THAT WE IN FACT, NEED A NEW ADAM".
Oh no, not a new Adam, let the scripture speak. 2 Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new". NOT a NEW Adam, but a NEW CREATURE, or CREATION. the OLD is PASSED away. again 1 John 3:2. so you ERROR there also.
#3. U said, "A NEW GUIDING SPRIRT, and so who will come out and say that the old Adam is IN FACT a part of what we are, and if he wouldn't have been a part of who we are, we would not have any need for a New Adam if the old Adam that still dwells within us is the greatest miracle of the bible."
we have need of a LIFE giving Spirit.
conclusion: there is NO "NEW ADAM", it's NEW CREATION, the old has passed, we look for NEW HEAVEN and NEW EARTH. but we don't know what we will be, but LIKE him. we will no longer be Adams as we know it now.
just one difference to throw at you, "NO BLOOD". for flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom. but flesh and bone can... (smile).
Science cant because science doesnt believe in God only themselves. The best explaination is The Book of Enoch, which people question because it doesnt give a White superiority spin....
There is NO white melanin, only black eumelanin, and reddish/yellowish pheomelanin. Any white-ishness denotes a degree of, or lack of melanin. Mela means dark.
The truth of the matter is that Black and white started with Jacob and Esau. Esau is the father of the Edomites, the black race, while Jacob is the father of the other races.
Edom means "red", supposedly with respect to the "red stuff" that he got from Jacob. Essau sold his "birthright" for a bowl of red "lentil" soup. (Genesis 25:30-33). You will probably have to go back to the son of Ham,Canaan, who was "cursed" to be a "servant of servants", to find your outward mark.
Genesis 9:25," cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants he shall be to his brothers".
According to the book of Jubilee, Canaan was given a second curse:
The chronological scheme of the Book of Jubilees has Ham born in the year 1209 A.M. — two years after Shem, three before Japheth, and 99 before the flood. It gives the name of his wife who also survived the flood as Na'eltama'uk. After his youngest son Canaan was cursed in 1321 A.M., he left Mount Ararat and built a city named for his wife on the south side of the mountain. In 1569 A.M., he received a third division of the earth along with his two brothers for his inheritance: everything west of the Nile River, and to the south of Gadir. In 1639 A.M. when the nations were scattered following the failure of the Tower of Babel, Ham and his children journeyed to their allotment, with the exception of Canaan, who settled in Shem's territory, thus receiving another curse.
According to Jubilees 10:29–34, this second curse is attributed to Canaan's steadfast refusal to join his elder brothers in Ham's allotment beyond the Nile, and instead "squatting" within the inheritance of Shem, on the eastern shores of the Mediterranean, the region later promised to Abraham:
And Canaan saw the land of Lebanon to the river of Egypt, that it was very good, and he went not into the land of his inheritance to the west (that is to) the sea, and he dwelt in the land of Lebanon, eastward and westward from the border of Jordan and from the border of the sea. And Ham, his father, and Cush and Mizraim his brothers said unto him: 'Thou hast settled in a land which is not thine, and which did not fall to us by lot: do not do so; for if thou dost do so, thou and thy sons will fall in the land and (be) accursed through sedition; for by sedition ye have settled, and by sedition will thy children fall, and thou shalt be rooted out for ever. Dwell not in the dwelling of Shem; for to Shem and to his sons did it come by their lot. Cursed art thou, and cursed shalt thou be beyond all the sons of Noah, by the curse by which we bound ourselves by an oath in the presence of the holy judge, and in the presence of Noah our father.' But he did not hearken unto them, and dwelt in the land of Lebanon from Hamath to the entering of Egypt, he and his sons until this day. And for this reason that land is named Canaan. – Jubilees 10:29–34.
we will look at all of these, one step at a time. the reason why I put Job on the list first, because many use job to support their false thinking concerning Genesis 6. so, by eliminating job we can then eliminate the false thing about Genesis chapter 6. let's begin, I warn you, I might post a quite a bit at one time but copy it and paste it into your WP for examination later.
the Almighty, the creator of heaven, and earth in Job 38:5 are asking some questions that Job cannot answer or any man, nor any angle. but God has answered it in Job 38:7 “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”. Here is what most people say, "see this prove that it was the angles". NO, NOT so fast. Question, who really are these “morning stars”, and the sons of God that sang, and shouted. Let’s see who and what they are. Here in Job 38 God almighty are using metaphors.
So if the sun, moon, and stars worship God how much more do his Angels?
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we will look at all of these, one step at a time. the reason why I put Job on the list first, because many use job to support their false thinking concerning Genesis 6. so, by eliminating job we can then eliminate the false thing about Genesis chapter 6. let's begin, I warn you, I might post a quite a bit at one time but copy it and paste it into your WP for examination later.
the Almighty, the creator of heaven, and earth in Job 38:5 are asking some questions that Job cannot answer or any man, nor any angle. but God has answered it in Job 38:7 “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”. Here is what most people say, "see this prove that it was the angles". NO, NOT so fast. Question, who really are these “morning stars”, and the sons of God that sang, and shouted. Let’s see who and what they are. Here in Job 38 God almighty are using metaphors.
So if the sun, moon, and stars worship God how much more do his Angels?
I believe that is looking forward not backwards.....Hebrew Scriptures are prophetic looking forward, not past
Also the NT looks forward, for when the “seeds” planted bear fruit
1Co 3:5 What then is Paul? And what Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, and to each as the Lord gave?
1Co 3:6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God made to grow.
1Co 3:7 So as neither he planting is anything, nor he watering, but God making to grow.
1Co 3:8 So he planting and he watering are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor.
1Co 3:9 For of God we are fellow-workers, a field of God, and you are a building of God.
Have you read St Gregory, morals on the book of Job?
Science cant because science doesnt believe in God only themselves. The best explaination is The Book of Enoch, which people question because it doesnt give a White superiority spin....
That sounds silly to me, never heard it before, but color is in the bible, and the bible insinuates that all people come from black people, that is the reason the bride is black, she represents all humans.
The truth of the matter is that Black and white started with Jacob and Esau. Esau is the father of the Edomites, while Jacob is the father of the other races.
Ham, the first born of Noah was black, Japheth the youngest was white, and Shem, the second born of Noah, was brown.
Ham received the land of Africa which is hot, Japheth receive the land of the far north where it is cold, but Shem received the land from the Nile Delta north to Lebanon and east to India, which is neither hot nor cold, but a blending of the two.
Untrue and racist. I have heard so many backwoods people say the like while dehumanizing black people with the curse of Ham, ridiculous.
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