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. But please, next time you venture into unknown territory really think about what it is you're saying, where you're saying it, and who you're saying it to.
Who better to ask than the very people I want to answer it?
You can't survive without the Bible? Sounds like you worship the Bible above God. What on earth did all those Christians do before the Bible was Canonized?
LOL!! Put 'em up, I say I say put 'em up! This is funny and anyone who knows me now knows I'm a Universalist......with fundamentalist leanings, lol. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
LOL!! Put 'em up, I say I say put 'em up! This is funny and anyone who knows me now knows I'm a Universalist......with fundamentalist leanings, lol. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Lol, by your own admission, i would say you have drank too much wine
Lol, by your own admission, i would say you have drank too much wine
LOL, I was quoting someone very famous btw.....but wait......you might be too young for that.....I don't know.....but his name is ....... ....... and he's a proud sob.....
" Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house.
They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
The KJV used the phrase "to know them" .... to "know them" in the Biblical sense is sexual relations.
I'd much rather you get out of your hate shoes and into God's truth.
So what does heterosexual men threatening to rape two men (angels) have to do with homosexuals?
Have you read Judges 19 and the story of the Levite stranger? Same thing was threatened by a gang of men...except they ended up gang-raping the Levite's concubine (female) all night.
Rape was used by straight men to humiliate strangers, to humiliate captives in war etc... this is not about homosexual men.
If those men were all gay, why did Lot offer his daughters to them instead? You are aware a man raping another man doesn't make him gay right? And that rape does not equal homosexuality?
I've yet to meet a Christian who uses the story of Lot and Sodom to condemn homosexuals who has even read Judges 19 and the story of the Levite.
Similiar story: the Levite stranger was threatened with rape by a gang of townsmen, yet it's the Levite's female concubine who ends up being gang raped all night. It's obvious these men were not homosexual just as those in the story of Sodom were not homosexual.
Why do people who condemn homosexuals ignore this story? Probably because they have never heard of it.
Most haven't even read the whole Bible, let alone studied it in it's original languages and cultural contexts.
If those men were all gay, why did Lot offer his daughters to them instead? You are aware a man raping another man doesn't make him gay right? And that rape does not equal homosexuality?
Most men who rape other men are heterosexual, not homosexual.
The National Center for Victims of Crime - Library/Document Viewer (http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32361 - broken link)
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Historically, the rape of males was more widely recognized in ancient times. Several of the legends in Greek mythology involved abductions and sexual assaults of males by other males or gods. The rape of a defeated male enemy was considered the special right of the victorious soldier in some societies and was a signal of the totality of the defeat. There was a widespread belief that a male who was sexually penetrated, even if it was by forced sexual assault, thus "lost his manhood," and could no longer be a warrior or ruler. Gang rape of a male was considered an ultimate form of punishment and, as such, was known to the Romans as punishment for adultery and the Persians and Iranians as punishment for violation of the sanctity of the harem (Donaldson, 1990).
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The phrase "homosexual rape," for instance, which is often used by uninformed persons to designate male-male rape, camouflages the fact that the majority of the rapists are not generally homosexual (Donaldson, 1990).
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