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Originally Posted by Verna Perry
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I did above. Now it is your turn.
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1Ti 2:1 . I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men;
1Ti 2:2 For kings, and [for] all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
1Ti 2:3 For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
1Ti 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, [and] lie not
a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
1Ti 2:9 . In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
1 timothy 2:6 is the context of the passage. If you pay a ransom, you will expect to receive all that you pay a ransom for.
Of course a human may not get all he paid a ransom for, but we are talking about the ALMIGHTY.
Salvation is of God, that means it is Gods responsibility to bring it about. (if you don't know those verses I will provide them)
It is not of you and your choice and your acceptance is of your will brought about by Gods love. Yes it is your choice, but God's love caused it because that is what scripture declares.
You only love God becuase he loved you first. You accept and live a life to please him ONLY because he loved you first.
The verses that appear to oppose that Jesus will not get all that he ransomed for is not saying "he won't" those are the words of man. The words of scripture assure us that we reap what we sow, that YES you can try to live a lie, ignore Gods commands, but you pave the way for destruction. It is absolute assurance that we cannot escape Gods judgment. It means that what is impure will have to come out.
Saul of Tarsus may have believed he was going to do as he pleased. But he found out otherwise, but what was the result of Gods wrath upon Saul, out emerged a new creation. Paul. Paul was not an "exception" or a "special" case, that is nonsense. There is no scripture to provide that says that is not what the context of Gods actions are,
Now, it really is your turn.
When God says he is going to do something that is his responsibility to do, it will be done. Try to say otherwise if you like, but it will never be correct.
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