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Old 04-25-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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"Then Simon Peter, who was behind him, arrived and went into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the burial cloth that had been around Jesus’ head. The cloth was folded up by itself, separate from the linen." John 20:6-7
Was that important? .......... Absolutely!
Is it really significant? ........ Yes!

This was message I learned on Easter Sunday.
In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin,
you have to understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of that day.
The folded napkin had to do with the Master and Servant, and every Jewish boy knew this tradition.
When the servant set the dinner table for the master, he made sure that it was exactly the way the master wanted it.
The table was furnished perfectly, and then the servant would wait, just out of sight, until the master had finished eating,
and the servant would not touch that table, until the master was finished.
Now if the master were done eating, he would rise from the table, wipe his fingers, his mouth, and clean his beard,
and would wad up that napkin and toss it onto the table. The servant would then know to clear the table.

For in those days, the wadded napkin meant, "I'm finished."
But if the master got up from the table, and folded his napkin, and laid it beside his plate,
the servant would not dare touch the table, because the folded napkin meant,...

"I'm coming back."
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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"Then Simon Peter, who was behind him, arrived and went into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the burial cloth that had been around Jesus’ head. The cloth was folded up by itself, separate from the linen." John 20:6-7
Was that important? .......... Absolutely!
Is it really significant? ........ Yes!

This was message I learned on Easter Sunday.
In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin,
you have to understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of that day.
The folded napkin had to do with the Master and Servant, and every Jewish boy knew this tradition.
When the servant set the dinner table for the master, he made sure that it was exactly the way the master wanted it.
The table was furnished perfectly, and then the servant would wait, just out of sight, until the master had finished eating,
and the servant would not touch that table, until the master was finished.
Now if the master were done eating, he would rise from the table, wipe his fingers, his mouth, and clean his beard,
and would wad up that napkin and toss it onto the table. The servant would then know to clear the table.

For in those days, the wadded napkin meant, "I'm finished."
But if the master got up from the table, and folded his napkin, and laid it beside his plate,
the servant would not dare touch the table, because the folded napkin meant,...

"I'm coming back."
Amen.... love that story !!
It is so awesome to read and learn the history of the Jewish traditions and ways !!
And then how Peter knowing this, he knew his Lord had left them a message through that napkin.... it confirmed to Peter's heart what the Lord had told them and promised.... "In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. (John 14: 2-3)..... amen !!
Yes, come Lord Jesus !!!
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:54 AM
 
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Amen.... love that story !!
It is so awesome to read and learn the history of the Jewish traditions and ways !!
There's only one problem: this isn't a Jewish tradition/custom. This napkin folding tradition never existed. There's a reason this "copy and paste" story is found only on forums, youtube, email and facebook.

The falsity of this story could have easily been verified simply by looking up the verse in the original greek. The word "entulissó" doesn't mean "fold", but to twist/entwine. The Christian community needs to stop this chainletter nonsense. It's taking his name in vain. If he is the truth, why attach lies to his scriptures?
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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It actually is truth; at dinner parties or banquets in 1st century Judea, you could let a host know you were coming back to the table after a break for the bathroom or a breather outside by leaving your napkin folded on the table.
Furthermore, you are incorrect in your petty assumption that it is a "copy-paste story found online." This was something I learned about in Biblical Literature classes.
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:31 AM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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It actually is truth; at dinner parties or banquets in 1st century Judea, you could let a host know you were coming back to the table after a break for the bathroom or a breather outside by leaving your napkin folded on the table.
Furthermore, you are incorrect in your petty assumption that it is a "copy-paste story found online." This was something I learned about in Biblical Literature classes.
Amen.... Yes, this I also found to be true through my research on the subject and a very interesting one at that !!
God will always give those little tidbits to encourage, spurring on His children, keeping them enduring till the end, in seeking Him in spirit and truth, amen !!

There will always be those who want nothing more but to prove Christianity false.... it is what it is !!


Blessings
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: US
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"Then Simon Peter, who was behind him, arrived and went into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the burial cloth that had been around Jesus’ head. The cloth was folded up by itself, separate from the linen." John 20:6-7
Was that important? .......... Absolutely!
Is it really significant? ........ Yes!

This was message I learned on Easter Sunday.
In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin,
you have to understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of that day.
The folded napkin had to do with the Master and Servant, and every Jewish boy knew this tradition.
When the servant set the dinner table for the master, he made sure that it was exactly the way the master wanted it.
The table was furnished perfectly, and then the servant would wait, just out of sight, until the master had finished eating,
and the servant would not touch that table, until the master was finished.
Now if the master were done eating, he would rise from the table, wipe his fingers, his mouth, and clean his beard,
and would wad up that napkin and toss it onto the table. The servant would then know to clear the table.

For in those days, the wadded napkin meant, "I'm finished."
But if the master got up from the table, and folded his napkin, and laid it beside his plate,
the servant would not dare touch the table, because the folded napkin meant,...

"I'm coming back."
I discovered that significance 2 years ago...Isn't it exciting?...Something like that most people read over and do not see nor even wonder at the significance of it...Most just figure it was a minor detail in the recounting of the Gospel...I always say that the NT is best understood with the Lamp of the OT...Not the other way around...
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:33 AM
 
Location: US
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There's only one problem: this isn't a Jewish tradition/custom. This napkin folding tradition never existed. There's a reason this "copy and paste" story is found only on forums, youtube, email and facebook.

The falsity of this story could have easily been verified simply by looking up the verse in the original greek. The word "entulissó" doesn't mean "fold", but to twist/entwine. The Christian community needs to stop this chainletter nonsense. It's taking his name in vain. If he is the truth, why attach lies to his scriptures?
Well, I read about this in a book called 'Jewish history and culture'...It was dining ettiquette...
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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"Then Simon Peter, who was behind him, arrived and went into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the burial cloth that had been around Jesus’ head. The cloth was folded up by itself, separate from the linen." John 20:6-7
Was that important? .......... Absolutely!
Is it really significant? ........ Yes!

This was message I learned on Easter Sunday.
In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin,
you have to understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of that day.
The folded napkin had to do with the Master and Servant, and every Jewish boy knew this tradition.
When the servant set the dinner table for the master, he made sure that it was exactly the way the master wanted it.
The table was furnished perfectly, and then the servant would wait, just out of sight, until the master had finished eating,
and the servant would not touch that table, until the master was finished.
Now if the master were done eating, he would rise from the table, wipe his fingers, his mouth, and clean his beard,
and would wad up that napkin and toss it onto the table. The servant would then know to clear the table.

For in those days, the wadded napkin meant, "I'm finished."
But if the master got up from the table, and folded his napkin, and laid it beside his plate,
the servant would not dare touch the table, because the folded napkin meant,...

"I'm coming back."
Twin,

This is so ironic! This is exactly the same lesson my preacher gave on Easter Sunday, and it was wonderful. The message of the folded napkin gives us the faith and hope we need to remind us HE WILL BE BACK. Praise God!

Lord come quickly!

God Bless,

Katie
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: New England
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He did come back . Just like He promised.

I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. John 14

When the day of Pentecost came. Acts 2:1
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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This is a great event Twin!
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