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Old 11-04-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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Kingdom of god is not within the sinner, it is within the believer, and the entrance is open to every sinner. All they have to do is enter. When they enter, the KOG will be within them too, and they will be within the KOG. And when they enter they will have eternal life. This is the promise of Jesus Christ. They asked Him when the KOG will come, and He said it is already among us, meaning the door is already open.
Amen....

Jesus tells us one needs to be 'born again' in order to see the KOG within..... let no one deceive you into believing anyone can look within and see or enter the KOG.....

1 Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews;
2 this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus *said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?”
5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
(John 3:1-7)


How does one become born again so they may see and enter the KOG within... in the book of Acts we can see how.....

37 Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?”
38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39 For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself.”

40 And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation!”
41 So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls.
42 They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.
43 Everyone kept feeling a sense of awe; and many wonders and signs were taking place through the apostles.
44 And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common;
45 and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need.
46 Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart,
47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.
(Acts 2:32-47

PLEASE, let no one deceive YOU.... into believing anyone can just look within and see the Kingdom of God. This is not truth.....

The truth is found in Christ and as He told Nicodemus one must born again, Jesus tells us He came to set the captive free, free from what.... SIN,
HOW does one get rid of sin, our past, present, and future sin ....??

Well, we are told in 1John, if we confess our sin to Jesus, He will forgive and cleanse us from all OUR sin (darkness), unrighteousness and then one becomes born again, born of the Spirit !
He (Jesus) through the Holy Spirit then brings forth the KOG into your heart that we may see and live the life the Father purposed, planned before sin entered the world through Adam !!

PLEASE NOTE: If one does not confess their sin and if one is still walking in sin (darkness), in the ways of the world and have not come forth to Christ confessing their sin they will not, nor can they see, nor enter into the KOG.....as we can read below,


5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;
7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. (1 John 1:5-10)

I acknowledged my sin to You,
And my iniquity I did not hide;
I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the LORD”;
And You forgave the guilt of my sin.
Selah (Ps.32:5)

He who conceals his transgressions will not prosper,
But he who confesses and forsakes them will find compassion. (Prov.28:13)
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Good post cyber. The new age universalist false beliefs need to be exposed. It is only ten in the morning and today we have already heard the following false teachings:

There is no heaven
There is no hell
Kingdom of God is within the wicked
Wrath of God/judgment has already taken place
Blasphemy of the holy spirit is not an eternal sin
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Kingdom of god is not within the sinner, it is within the believer, and the entrance is open to every sinner. All they have to do is enter. When they enter, the KOG will be within them too, and they will be within the KOG. And when they enter they will have eternal life. This is the promise of Jesus Christ. They asked Him when the KOG will come, and He said it is already among us, meaning the door is already open.
Question: Do you have children?



Blessings,
brian
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Why are you shouting?

Read post 17 again if you are interested in the biblical view.
You were given the biblical view...right out of Jesus mouth...you just chose to ignore it along with the majority of Christianity.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You were given the biblical view...right out of Jesus mouth...you just chose to ignore it along with the majority of Christianity.
Your misunderstanding has been explained to you many times, but you can't see it.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Your misunderstanding has been explained to you many times, but you can't see it.
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

I would say that is pretty crystal clear.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

I would say that is pretty crystal clear.
Even more clear than these? You need to understand what you read Christy. "Within you" means it is already here, among us, already available. It does not mean it is inside those who reject it.


New Living Translation (©2007)
You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you."

English Standard Version (©2001)
nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

International Standard Version (©2008)
People won't be saying, 'Look! Here it is!' or 'There it is!' because now the kingdom of God is among you."

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“Neither do they say, 'Behold, here it is!' and 'Behold, from here to there!', for behold, the Kingdom of God is within some of you.”

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.

Bible in Basic English
And men will not say, See, it is here! or, There! for the kingdom of God is among you.

Darby Bible Translation
nor shall they say, Lo here, or, Lo there; for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:39 AM
 
Location: New England
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It is funny how you failed to include the bottom 4 off the list you copied and posted from which all say "it is within you".

And the YLT the bottom one is the best translation of all the translations you copied and pasted.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Even more clear than these? You need to understand what you read Christy. "Within you" means it is already here, among us, already available. It does not mean it is inside those who reject it.


New Living Translation (©2007)
You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you."

English Standard Version (©2001)
nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

International Standard Version (©2008)
People won't be saying, 'Look! Here it is!' or 'There it is!' because now the kingdom of God is among you."

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“Neither do they say, 'Behold, here it is!' and 'Behold, from here to there!', for behold, the Kingdom of God is within some of you.”

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.

Bible in Basic English
And men will not say, See, it is here! or, There! for the kingdom of God is among you.

Darby Bible Translation
nor shall they say, Lo here, or, Lo there; for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.
Given that the majority of bible translators are biased by their beliefs...let us look to the original meaning of the words that were translated...shall we:

[LEFT]entos: within, among[/LEFT]
Original Word: ἐντός
Part of Speech: Adverb
Transliteration: entos
Phonetic Spelling: (en-tos')
Short Definition: within, inside, the inside
Definition: within, inside, the inside.

Derived from en:

1722 en (a preposition) – properly, in (inside, within); (figuratively) "in the realm (sphere) of," as in the condition (state) in which something operates from the inside (within).
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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It is funny how you failed to include the bottom 4 off the list you copied and posted from which all say "it is within you".

And the YLT the bottom one is the best translation of all the translations you copied and pasted.
I guess that is the way it is with some...always refusing to seek knowledge and refusing to critically examine what they've been taught. While some of us actually seek to find the truth.
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