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Old 04-27-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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~ No Temple Needed For The Fulfilling 0f Prophecy:

There is no mention of a Temple in Daniel.

It's just that the Word Temple
or the phrase 'holy place' has become
the popular interpretation for the word 'Sanctuary' instead.

The 'supplications' of Daniel were not over a Temple.
But for 'Jerusalem' 'God's Holy Mountain' 'God's Sanctuary'.
Dan. 9:16-19

Ex.15:17 - "The Mountain 0f Your (God's) Inhertance".
'the Place You Made For Your Dwelling.
the Sanctuary O Lord which Your Hands Have Established'.

Remember God dwelt on Mt. Sinai without any building structures.

- Sacrifices & Offerings was and are made without
a Temple/house for a Sanctuary. - 1Chron.28:10

The word Sanctuary does not just mean a Temple.

The word 'Sacrifices' or 'Qorban' in The Mosaic Law..
Is the literal meaning of
"That Which Is Brought Near To God'.
this word 'qorban' was used for anything given or devoted to God.

Therefore, still yet much is given & devoted
to God 'Daily' In Jerusalem, God's Sanctuary.

Matt.24:15 - Here again the word Temple is not used
but the word Jerusalem is.
'The Holy Place' of God's Sanctuary is Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, God's Sanctuary.

- We must keep in mind the word Temple
is never mentioned in Daniel nor Matthew.
And that the word Sanctuary or Holy Place is only interpreted Temple.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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Jesus took out the Worldly Temple and put it on His coverts were it will never be closed down or sacked again .... As all Coverts of Christ are the Dwelling place for the Temple of the Holy Spirit, and the need or a Temple of Jerusalem is lost forever ..... Even though when believers get together there will be many Temples of Holy spirit in one place, and unity is the heart of the Lord were new convert will have to go to a believer who has the Temple of the Holy spirit so the Lord can get to other people .... In John 4: 4-26 Jesus said before the cross of Christ in verse 21-23...``Believe me , the hour comes when you will neither in this mountain, nor at Jerusalem worship the Father....You worship what you know not , we know what we worship for salvation is of the Jews .... BUT the hour comes and now is , when the true Worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and in truth. for the Father seeks such to worship Him... God is Spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth```..... See Jesus talks of the New covenant coming before the cross were the Religion of the Temple of Jerusalem is coming to an end and people will worship the Father in the Spirit from the Temple of Holy spirit is what did happen, and is here today for all believers who pray for the baptism of Holy Spirit will receive this Temple of Holy Spirit of believers ,dwelling place for the Lord ....
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:23 PM
 
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Yes, like those scriptures.

Peter even said we as The Lord should come to Him as Living stones,
are being built up a Spiritual House a Holy Priesthood
to offer up Spiritual Sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. - 1 Pet.2
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:27 PM
 
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we msut give up all that we think we are.. think we know, die fully to all that we think we are , everything we think we might become.. every desire, every want.. die to our stories of the mind and live. consciousness itself is here beyond all the attachements , all beliefs. peace,truth faith to walk fully into the unknown
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Old 04-28-2012, 09:34 AM
 
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People say, then what about 'The Temple' mentioned
in The Great Tribulation time of The Revelation 0f Jesus Christ?

In The Spirit John went up into heaven
through a door that was opened to him. - Rev.4:1,2

John being IN The Spirit saw things that were happening in heaven.
And things that would be happening in heaven and down on earth.

John was told to go back down to the sea and the earth
where the angel stood
to take the little book and eat it. - Rev.10:-8-10

Then John was given a Reed like a Measuring Rod
and told again to RISE. To Measure The Temple 0f God
The Altar and Those Who Worship there in The Temple in heaven.
Rev.11:1

This is not the first time an Angel and a Prophet had a Measuring Rod to Measure The Temple of God in Heaven.
As an Angel and The Prophet Ezekiel also Measure
the Temple of God in heaven.

Before Jesus went to make heavenly Jerusalem New.
The Heavenly City Jerusalem being God's Temple.
Then and now, New. Should be Measured again.

So How Could 0ne Measure The People who Worship There?

Jesus said, there would be those whom He called
Pillars of New Jerusalem in The Temple 0f His God. - Rev.3:12

I'd say they'd be 'To The Measure & Stature 0f The Fullness 0f Christ".
Ephs.4:13
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Old 08-08-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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- So many false prophecies have been taught about a 3rd temple being built
before other things can happen.

Which is not true to scripture.
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:11 AM
 
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Actually, scripture speaks more to the temple being re-built in the End Times and animal sacrifices being conducted there. For example:
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NIV)
[3] Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. [4] He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Daniel 9:27 (NIV)
[27] He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him".

Most End Time scholars agree that a final temple will be built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem (interestingly, on the site of the 'original' temple(?)). The answer to three questions seems unclear: Exactly where was the original temple? How will that happen with the Mosque of Omar on the top of the temple mount? and When will the temple be rebuilt? --- Scripture only says that sacrifices (and the 'abomination of desolation'; temple desecration) will occur midway through the Great Tribulation. IMO, it is quite possible that the temple will be built during the GT, not before; and that those viewing that as a final sign before the start of the GT, may be wrong.
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:49 PM
 
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Daniel 9:27 (NIV)
[27] He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him".
Not an end time prophecy but fulfilled by Jesus as his ministry was 3 1/2 years ( 1/2 of 7 weeks) and then only Jews and Jewish proselytes were reached until Cornelius as the last 1/2 of the week expired. That prophecy is finished, and Jesus is the only sacrifice needed and he did that at the end of the 3 1/2 weeks. The desolation came in 70 AD when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and then all of Judea.

ASV Daniel 9:27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jghorton View Post
Actually, scripture speaks more to the temple being re-built in the End Times and animal sacrifices being conducted there. For example:
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NIV)
[3] Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. [4] He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Daniel 9:27 (NIV)
[27] He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him".

Most End Time scholars agree that a final temple will be built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem (interestingly, on the site of the 'original' temple(?)). The answer to three questions seems unclear: Exactly where was the original temple? How will that happen with the Mosque of Omar on the top of the temple mount? and When will the temple be rebuilt? --- Scripture only says that sacrifices (and the 'abomination of desolation'; temple desecration) will occur midway through the Great Tribulation. IMO, it is quite possible that the temple will be built during the GT, not before; and that those viewing that as a final sign before the start of the GT, may be wrong.

- Paul had the reference of Isaiah 14:13
for 2Thess.2:3-4 "showing himself that he is god". Not showing the world that he is god.

- The word Temple is not in the prophecy for Daniel's supplication to God about Jerusalem
God Holy mountain His 'Sanctuary'. - Dan.9

Sacrifices and Offering were in Biblical times as even-so now
are encouraged by the Temple Mount Leader to be done without a Temple.

And the phrase of 'abomination of desolation' is not a person either.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:58 PM
 
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Two temples are recorded in the bible.

Solomon's temple

Temple that Jesus taught in during His time on earth.

Go peddle your false doctrine someplace else. It carries no merit or consideration of true recorded facts!
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