Have you ever felt a conflict between your Christian beliefs and scientific evidence? (evolution, Jesus)
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I'm wondering whether, as a Christian, you have sensed an uneasiness between your faith in Christ, God or the Bible and what modern science has discovered. And if so, how did you reconcile this in your mind?
I'm wondering whether, as a Christian, you have sensed an uneasiness between your faith in Christ, God or the Bible and what modern science has discovered. And if so, how did you reconcile this in your mind?
Feel free to discuss any specifics that you like.
Prior to my conversion, I was under the popular presupposition that somehow Science contradicts what the Bible says. With everything there are two sides. With Science, you have people observing things and making conclusions. The conclusions, even if popular, can and often are wrong.
What one would expect from an omnipotent, omnipresent Creator would be that Science authenticates his existence. We would expect uniformity of laws in nature and even constants. With evolution theology, we would expect randomness in and ever changing environment. So how do they explain Planks constant which is deals with both space and time continuum?
There's actually a whole lot they can't explain. Go to your physics professor in any university and ask them to tell you why light exists as both a wave and a particle. They know it does because that is what they observe, but they have NO clue as to WHY.
What about irreducible complexity? Evolution theologians attempt to skirmish around it, but the facts stand for itself. No rationale person would conclude that a Car can run with only three wheels. Even any child could reason that it needs all four. The common example is a mouse trap - needs five pieces that all must work. 4/5 of a mousetrap doesn't make it work 4/5 as good. It won't work at all.
One Evolution Evangelist attempted to explain it by grasping a mousetrap without the spring. He held it down with his hand and said something to the equivalent of "see it works". It should have been embarrassing. All he proved is that he needed a hand, fingers, tendons, etc to produce the force required.
And they call this Science? It's called speculation. It may be good for the science fiction novels but not good for the elementary textbooks.
I've learned over the years that science like medicine is hardly an exact science. IT has made many mistakes in the past. It is subject to its own prejudices. Scientists will change their research to get funding for more biased research. After all, without money they'd have to get real jobs.
For example, the current "Global Warming" scare although promoted by many scientists, is full of holes. Much of this "science" has been proven to be outright lies and distortions.
2. I have a book that documents many of the prejudices in Archeology. The author bodly proclaims that half of all finds are ignored, because many do not fit their established "science". In this book, he clearly documents archeological finds that have simply been ignored. A gold chain found in a coal bed being mined?
3. Science has for centuries made massive mistakes. Just look at many past medical treatments that have since been thankfully stopped. My own studies in the field of Psychology have proven to me that most Psychologists don't have a clue.
So the bottom line is, I don't put much credence in modern "science". After all, now they think aliens long ago came to earth. Talk about far fetched ideas.
I'm wondering whether, as a Christian, you have sensed an uneasiness between your faith in Christ, God or the Bible and what modern science has discovered. And if so, how did you reconcile this in your mind?
Feel free to discuss any specifics that you like.
No.I never have, and I read aot of controversial "studies"...But, I am grounded in my belief.
I had a public high school biology teacher in St. Louis, MO, who was very uncomfortable with being forced to teach evolution, so just before the bell rang, she would call out, "But without G-d was not anything made that was made." I appreciated her for continuing to stand for what she believed.
For myself, I am not very scientific, so when something does not ring right, I research it a little to see why. Bottom line, I am not a person who has extreme faith, so it is much easier for me to have faith that G-d created than to conjur up enough faith to believe that it all happened by accident, by some explosion, by chemical ignition, or any such thing.
When I see a bumble bee up close, I am reminded that today's teaching of evolution makes no sense. When I see the intricacy of a flower or some microscopic particle, no way can I believe it all just happened. Oh, well.
I had a public high school biology teacher in St. Louis, MO, who was very uncomfortable with being forced to teach evolution, so just before the bell rang, she would call out, "But without G-d was not anything made that was made." I appreciated her for continuing to stand for what she believed.
A courageous lady. I hope God has blessed her mightily.
I'm wondering whether, as a Christian, you have sensed an uneasiness between your faith in Christ, God or the Bible and what modern science has discovered. ...
I do not sense any 'uneasiness' in my Faith.
I rather enjoy keeping up on science, as most often I see that it supports my Fundamentalist beliefs.
A few years ago I got a subscription to BAR [Biblical Archaeological Review]. It has articles about each of the current dig sites and their findings. Many of the specific minor characters in Bible stories have been documented to have existed from various things that have been discovered. While not documenting the 'miracles' of the Bible, Archaeology does support the existence of many of the peoples, places, migrations and battles.
Mark 4:30–32Another parable He put forth to them, saying: The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field, which indeed is (1)the least of all the seeds; but when it is grown it is greater than the herbs and (2)becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches.”
Problems:
1. The mustard seed is hardly "the least of all seeds.."
2. The mustard plant is a bush never a tree. As such, it's branchs would support many if any birds with their nests.
(Mark (or Jesus) has to brush up on their botany!)
Last edited by ancient warrior; 05-02-2012 at 08:50 AM..
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