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liberation theology. The only thing it will liberate you of is your eternal life. (Road to hell) Bible is not about reforming this world but salvation from it. Jesus never taught any rebellion against govt. Paul clearly teaches against it. Rom 13
Jesus makes it quite clear what his mission is in Luke:
". . . The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor. . . [Lk 4:18-19]
Further being focused on the plight of the poor will not lose you your salvation.
but isn't this a good thing, because from what I know of history, there were a lot of unpleasant dictatorships in South America, ones which really bashed the poor;
The focus of Jesus was the salvation of the soul, eternal life and the peace and joy of the Gospel. The focus of the liberation theology is to improve your life here and now. Jesus said His Kingdom is not of this world, while liberation theology offers "better life now".
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and weren't the churches often in league with the elite in those countries?
The Catholic church was the one pushing for this new theology.
The focus of Jesus was the salvation of the soul, eternal life and the peace and joy of the Gospel. The focus of the liberation theology is to improve your life here and now. Jesus said His Kingdom is not of this world, while liberation theology offers "better life now".
The Catholic church was the one pushing for this new theology.
The Kingdom is here in this world, it's just not a worldly or religious kingdom. The just "living" by faith, life cannot be better in the here and now. Goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life .
He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
Romans 13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 13:2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment.
so how does this work in the real world.
if God appointed Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin etc.. does that mean they are all good and should be followed.
some here have criticised Marx, so why did God put Lenin into power?
what if govt. came in by a violent coup - should we follow it obediently?
if God put Saddam Hussein into power then what right does Christian George Bush have in bombing him?
Liberation theology is about the fact that God expects those of us who are well-off to look out for our neighbours who are not. Read Amos, Hosea and Joel then get back to me, also consider the witness of the early Church in Jerusalem.
Wrong. That's not what it's about.
Those here who support Liberation Theology don't understand what Liberation Theology IS and the idea behind it. It's faaaar too simple to say that it's about helping the poor. Of course we're supposed to help the poor. No one disputes that. What's behind Liberation Theology is the REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH to KEEP EVERY PERSON ON AN EQUAL FINANCIAL FIELD. It doesn't want anyone having more than others so, when they have it, they need to distribute it to those who don't have as much.
Is that what you want? I'm sure many people on the forum have lost their jobs and have less than you. If you're such a believer of Liberation Theology, let me ask you this... Are you a doer of Liberation Theology? Remember now, just helping the poor isn't enough. Have you redistributed what you have to those who don't have as much?
Has ANYONE who supports Liberation Theology redistributed their wealth or are you all just waiting for YOUR share? Point blank -- that's what it's about. People who support Liberation Theology always want OTHERS to be the ones who give. They ignore the fact that there are others who have even less than themselves and they don't want to part with what they have because they feel like it's not enough as it is.
THAT'S the point of this thread. THAT'S what Liberation Theology is. It's 100% unbiblical. There is no precedent or example for this in the scriptures. It is easily traced to it's beginnings in South America among the peasants in the 1950's. After it failed there, it was adopted by poor black communities in North America and they still cling desperately to it. That's it. That's it's complete history and it's rooted in greed.
You are very clearly in favor of Liberation Theology. Have YOU redistributed what you have to the poor so that they are no longer on a lower financial level than you? Do you continue to do this as you get paid from your job, to give the money to the poor? If not, then your arguments are worthless because you aren't living by what you say you believe. The believers in Liberation Theology are all waiting for THEIR share of the wealth. That's why it produced REVOLTS. It wasn't those with the wealth that revolted.
Liberation Theology is not only unbiblical but it's IMPOSSIBLE. We could take all of the world's money right now and divide it up evenly and the overwhelming majority of the poor are going to be poor again. It's a cycle that never ends.
Help the poor, yes. But don't make a theology out of it.
Those here who support Liberation Theology don't understand what Liberation Theology IS and the idea behind it. It's faaaar too simple to say that it's about helping the poor. Of course we're supposed to help the poor. No one disputes that. What's behind Liberation Theology is the REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH to KEEP EVERY PERSON ON AN EQUAL FINANCIAL FIELD. It doesn't want anyone having more than others so, when they have it, they need to distribute it to those who don't have as much.
Is that what you want? I'm sure many people on the forum have lost their jobs and have less than you. If you're such a believer of Liberation Theology, let me ask you this... Are you a doer of Liberation Theology? Remember now, just helping the poor isn't enough. Have you redistributed what you have to those who don't have as much?
Has ANYONE who supports Liberation Theology redistributed their wealth or are you all just waiting for YOUR share? Point blank -- that's what it's about. People who support Liberation Theology always want OTHERS to be the ones who give. They ignore the fact that there are others who have even less than themselves and they don't want to part with what they have because they feel like it's not enough as it is.
THAT'S the point of this thread. THAT'S what Liberation Theology is. It's 100% unbiblical. There is no precedent or example for this in the scriptures. It is easily traced to it's beginnings in South America among the peasants in the 1950's. After it failed there, it was adopted by poor black communities in North America and they still cling desperately to it. That's it. That's it's complete history and it's rooted in greed.
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To Kenneth Kaunda, the OP of this thread:
You are very clearly in favor of Liberation Theology. Have YOU redistributed what you have to the poor so that they are no longer on a lower financial level than you? Do you continue to do this as you get paid from your job, to give the money to the poor? If not, then your arguments are worthless because you aren't living by what you say you believe. The believers in Liberation Theology are all waiting for THEIR share of the wealth. That's why it produced REVOLTS. It wasn't those with the wealth that revolted.
Liberation Theology is not only unbiblical but it's IMPOSSIBLE. We could take all of the world's money right now and divide it up evenly and the overwhelming majority of the poor are going to be poor again. It's a cycle that never ends.
Help the poor, yes. But don't make a theology out of it.
Catholic bishops started adopting this theology in South America in the 1950's. The wealthy didn't care to part with their money and the poor were encouraged to revolt. But, in the 1980's the Catholic church spoke against this theology (which has deep roots in Roman Catholicism) because of the Marxist leanings and the revolts associated with it.
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Those here who support Liberation Theology don't understand what Liberation Theology IS and the idea behind it. It's faaaar too simple to say that it's about helping the poor. Of course we're supposed to help the poor. No one disputes that. What's behind Liberation Theology is the REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH to KEEP EVERY PERSON ON AN EQUAL FINANCIAL FIELD. It doesn't want anyone having more than others so, when they have it, they need to distribute it to those who don't have as much.
Is that what you want? I'm sure many people on the forum have lost their jobs and have less than you. If you're such a believer of Liberation Theology, let me ask you this... Are you a doer of Liberation Theology? Remember now, just helping the poor isn't enough. Have you redistributed what you have to those who don't have as much?
Has ANYONE who supports Liberation Theology redistributed their wealth or are you all just waiting for YOUR share? Point blank -- that's what it's about. People who support Liberation Theology always want OTHERS to be the ones who give. They ignore the fact that there are others who have even less than themselves and they don't want to part with what they have because they feel like it's not enough as it is.
THAT'S the point of this thread. THAT'S what Liberation Theology is. It's 100% unbiblical. There is no precedent or example for this in the scriptures. It is easily traced to it's beginnings in South America among the peasants in the 1950's. After it failed there, it was adopted by poor black communities in North America and they still cling desperately to it. That's it. That's it's complete history and it's rooted in greed.
I have read Gutierriez and Boff and I have given both of my time and my resources, have you?
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