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Furthermore, as I have repeatedly said . . . it is impossible to love each other WITHOUT loving god...
Maybe, but you also wrote:
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IF we love each other . . . we automatically love God . . .
The two statements are not logically equivalent. And rather than acknowledge that the person whom you attacked was correct or otherwise communicate your uncertainty, you attempted to paint that person as inadequate or inferior to you.
That's the greatest evil here: you sought to harm another person's ability to achieve communion with God because that person challenged your right to the seat of honor. You did to him what was done to Jesus.
And you neglect to point out the basis of this unsubstantiated assertion. Are we to assume you are an expert and not question it?
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And rather than acknowledge that the person whom you attacked was correct or otherwise communicate your uncertainty, you attempted to paint that person as inadequate or inferior to you.
I acknowledged that the way I phrased my post was inappropriate (which you conveniently ignored) to continue your off topic attacks on ME and not my arguments.
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That's the greatest evil here: you sought to harm another person's ability to achieve communion with God because that person challenged your right to the seat of honor. You did to him what was done to Jesus.
Disagree all you like . . . but Christ DID all that is necessary. It is self-professed psychics like you who claim knowledge of the intent of others that is the greater evil here . . . attempting to provoke animosity. Your comparison to the scourging and crucifixion of Jesus is beyond contempt and absurd.
And you neglect to point out the basis of this unsubstantiated assertion. Are we to assume you are an expert and not question it? I acknowledged that the way I phrased my post was inappropriate (which you conveniently ignored) to continue your off topic attacks on ME and not my arguments. Disagree all you like . . . but Christ DID all that is necessary. It is self-professed psychics like you who claim knowledge of the intent of others that is the greater evil here . . . attempting to provoke animosity. Your comparison to the scourging and crucifixion of Jesus is beyond contempt and absurd.
What is apparent has to do with the thought process of an individual, who at the expense of another, desires to exalt himself. Mystics, do not burden yourself with this nonsense.
What is apparent has to do with the thought process of an individual, who at the expense of another, desires to exalt himself. Mystics, do not burden yourself with this nonsense.
Thank you for the reminder, my brother . . . you are right of course. God bless.
And you neglect to point out the basis of this unsubstantiated assertion. Are we to assume you are an expert and not question it?
My friend, this reveals your fundamental corruption: souls are not saved by a person who demands the seat of honor and seeks to be the arbitrator between the lost and God. Substantiation should be achieved by explanation, not a claim of authority.
I respect you as a creation of God just as I respect every person as a creation of God; I am no more or less than anyone. I respect your opinion because it reflects where you are in your relationship with God and because it gives me the opportunity to ponder in a new way my own relationship with God. But you are hurting people; you aren't helping flowers bloom; you're forcing flowers to accept your fertilizer without regard to whether or not it's the right kind of fertilizer for that soul.
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Your comparison to the scourging and crucifixion of Jesus is beyond contempt and absurd.
I wasn't comparing your behavior to Jesus being punished; I compared your reaction, hardened heart, to ideas that challenge your beliefs to the reactions of the Pharisees, etc. when Jesus presented different ideas to them.
With respect, Jesus did much more than get beat and killed.
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Originally Posted by Eusebius Is what Jesus did ENOUGH to save you or anyone else? YES or NO.
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How can it not be enough...the ultimate sacrifice on our behalf. We just have to prove ourselves worthy of it and we will recieve salvation in Gods love.
Is that really what Romans 5:18 and 19 say?
Did we have to prove ourselves worthy to be made sinners due to Adam's disobedience?
One would think so, but if you're murdering and raping people, cursing and talking about God (in a bad way), constantly fornicating and not asking God forgiveness, (and actually trying to stop), etc.
Do you think that person will make it?
You can't just say 'well Jesus died for us, so I know I'm going to make it', because if you're thinking and/or saying this, then you really need to change that, before it's too late.
One would think so, but if you're murdering and raping people, cursing and talking about God (in a bad way), constantly fornicating and not asking God forgiveness, (and actually trying to stop), etc.
Do you think that person will make it?
You can't just say 'well Jesus died for us, so I know I'm going to make it', because if you're thinking and/or saying this, then you really need to change that, before it's too late.
Hello from south of Bessemer!
No that person will not make it.
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