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Old 01-06-2013, 06:05 AM
 
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OK. I decided to try this and see if I could make good fish out of bad fish by casting them into a fire. The result was not good fish. They were not purified in any way by the fire. So we know that the bad that is cast into the fire cannot come out good.
Were the bad fish tortured forever?
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:07 AM
 
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rainbows which are made of multi-colored marshmallows with sparkles and soft clouds made out of ice cream. I did a lot of research on this, trust me.
Apparently you don't want to discuss this seriously...
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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Were the bad fish tortured forever?
Yes they were fried fish
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:31 AM
 
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Yes they were fried fish
They were battered too, you can't have bad fish not being punished can we.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:31 AM
 
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Were the bad fish tortured forever?
I attempted an interview with the bad fish after being burned but they refused to respond. The problem is I could not produce a never ending "Lake of Fire" and wait for eternity to see if that was plausible or not. What is obvious is if the fire ends they still are not good fish so this is not a way of restoring the fish to a good state but to make the end worse than the beginning.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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Apparently you don't want to discuss this seriously...
Seriously....??? There is nothing serious about the UR philosophy.

All it is, is a group of people who could not face the reality of God's truth so they created a philosophy that would relieve them of the fear, guilt, doubts, unbelief, rather then trust and obey the reality of God and His will !!

Those who are walking in the Spirit of God listen to Him and learn to live in a real world by trusting and obeying Him and do not want to hear nor listen to its silly fantasy that are nothing but lies against Almighty God !!
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. 48 When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. 49 This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50 and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

51 “Have you understood all these things?” Jesus asked.

“Yes,” they replied.

52 He said to them, “Therefore every teacher of the law who has been instructed about the kingdom of heaven is like the owner of a house who brings out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old.”
It's truely amazing how the carnal thinking man reads eternal hell into everything. You take everything literal except the parts you don't like such as plucking your eye out and cutting your hand off, you make excuses up for not being holy as he is holy.

The meaning to all the parables are in the bolded part of the parable. If you have not realized yet that you by the greater one within you have not learned how to deal with the bad fish within you, you remain in your sin and will die in them too( no matter how much you say you believe in Jesus and the bible) You'll never be a fisher of men until you have learnt to fish out all that is not of God within you( be transformed by the renewing of the mind)Remember what I keep telling you, don't keep reading everything so literally .
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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It's truely amazing how the carnal thinking man reads eternal hell into everything. You take everything literal except the parts you don't like such as plucking your eye out and cutting your hand off, you make excuses up for not being holy as he is holy.

The meaning to all the parables are in the bolded part of the parable. If you have not realized yet that you by the greater one within you have not learned how to deal with the bad fish within you, you remain in your sin and will die in them too( no matter how much you say you believe in Jesus and the bible) You'll never be a fisher of men until you have learnt to fish out all that is not of God within you( be transformed by the renewing of the mind)Remember what I keep telling you, don't keep reading everything so literally .
Pcamps, the way you explain these bible passages so often makes something even clearer to me than it was before, and I sure do appreciate it. I feel that I get the general spirit of these parables, but you seem to be able to focus in on the very words which make it all crystal clear.

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Old 01-06-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. 48 When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. 49 This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50 and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

51 “Have you understood all these things?” Jesus asked.

“Yes,” they replied.

52 He said to them, “Therefore every teacher of the law who has been instructed about the kingdom of heaven is like the owner of a house who brings out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old.”
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. 48 When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. 49 This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50 and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

51 “Have you understood all these things?” Jesus asked.

“Yes,” they replied.

52 He said to them, “Therefore every teacher of the law who has been instructed about the kingdom of heaven is like the owner of a house who brings out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old.”
This illustration from Jesus is not a literal one so don't be concerned about the fish. The fish represent we as individuals at the literal day of judgement to come. Where each of us will be separated, the good from the bad and the bad will be cast into the literal lake of fire. This is a clear teaching that you will stand before Jesus and be judged and those found lacking will be cast into a fire. This is the fate you can choose to be saved from.

Bible correcter's and bible haters will try and tell you this is not true. That Jesus was not telling us what He did. But this somehow means something mystical or it's about something besides the judgement all men will face. You must beware of wolves in sheep's clothing trying to convince you of a lie.

Do not be deceived. God is not mocked! Only the truth can set you free!
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