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Old 09-05-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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Apparently some don't if they are telling you the things you have written in this post and others.

Why have you chosen to only explore one "concordance"? Only fundamentalists read the Bible literally.

A majority of other Christians understand the importance or reading the Bible in context and with an understanding of the audience the message was being addressed to at the time.
Ok so the Torah was intended for the People of Israel,
The Jews, it's not intended for Gentiles(Christians)
So why even debate this?

Within the Context of the Mosaic Law they where asked to keep themselves Holy or else the land God was giving them would vomit them out as it had the people who came before them. The people who came before them in that land where the people God sent them to commit Genocide against so that they could take that land.

If some one committed an Act which was considered unholy they where forced to Exile or Murder the person in order to keep the land Pure and Holy.
In some cases God would be fair and ask people to repent. The book of Jonah is an example.
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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Ok so the Torah was intended for the People of Israel,
The Jews, it's not intended for Gentiles(Christians)
So why even debate this?

Within the Context of the Mosaic Law they where asked to keep themselves Holy or else the land God was giving them would vomit them out as it had the people who came before them. The people who came before them in that land where the people God sent them to commit Genocide against so that they could take that land.

If some one committed an Act which was considered unholy they where forced to Exile or Murder the person in order to keep the land Pure and Holy.
In some cases God would be fair and ask people to repent. The book of Jonah is an example.
Which is why Jesus went throughout the area proclaiming "Repent ! ... the Kingdom of God is near."
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:52 PM
 
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Which is why Jesus went throughout the area proclaiming "Repent ! ... the Kingdom of God is near."
How would you define Repentance?
To me it is turning from Sin and doing our best to do the will of God instead.

There are "Laws" meant for Christians and those can be found in Christs teachings but the Torah is not meant for our use it is meant for the Jews.
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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How would you define Repentance?
To me it is turning from Sin and doing our best to do the will of God instead.

There are "Laws" meant for Christians and those can be found in Christs teachings but the Torah is not meant for our use it is meant for the Jews.
When a Christian is brought to faith, that person becomes aware of both his sin and the high cost of his forgiveness.

The unavoidable state of that awareness is sorrow for the sin that placed Christ on the cross.

This sorrow is repentance.
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:45 PM
 
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When a Christian is brought to faith, that person becomes aware of both his sin and the high cost of his forgiveness.

The unavoidable state of that awareness is sorrow for the sin that placed Christ on the cross.

This sorrow is repentance.
Could another way of saying that be Realizing Your Guilty?

I sort of agree with you, except the cross part of course.

I believe there are four parts to Repentance:
1: Realizing Your Guilt.
2: Ceasing the Sinful Actions.
3: Confessing your Sin to God and a member of our faith.
4: Making a Resolve to not make the same mistakes in the future.

There is a cost for forgiveness but in my theology it's not blood, it's our Submitting to Gods will for our lives.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:25 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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1 Corinthians 6:12 [ Sexual Immorality ]
“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial.
“I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything."

That is the good news when it comes to sexual immorality, God said it is not so powerful that it can't be mastered.

What is sexual immorality? God's Word defines it as
  • anything that is something which goes beyond a the natural creation of man \ woman who are married
And how can one be not mastered by sexual perversion \ immorality?
" ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says:
Repent! Turn from your idols and renounce all your detestable practices! ' " Ezekiel 14:6

" Submit yourselves, then, to God.
Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. " James 4:7

"No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind.
And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.
But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it. "
1 Corinthians 10:13
Still the truth.

Sexual immorality make the individual a slave to sin.
God has the treatment of slavery to sin. Read Romans 7

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Old 09-28-2016, 11:38 PM
 
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Still the truth.

Sexual immorality make the individual a slave to sin.
God has the treatment of slavery to sin. Read Romans 7
Define:
  • Sexual immorality
  • Sin

Without a CLEAR definition of these, your statement is meaningless.
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Old 09-29-2016, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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It is not "beneficial" because God is Sovereign and declares it as part of the many things he finds as detestable. That is why He states very emphatically "Repent ! ... and renounce all your detestable practices ....
Since God thinks lying is detestable, when are you going to renounce the lie that I am sexually immoral simply because I'm a lesbian, even though I've stated emphatically that I don't have sex nor do I want anything to do with it?

You're not fooling anyone you know. The whole reason you started this thread was so you could point your crooked little finger at LGBT people, and condemn us from the depths of your crooked heart even though you don't know a thing about our lives -- all the while justifying or ignoring your own sin, or even worse shifting blame with your "Christians who watch porn don't want to look at porn, etc...the devil makes them!!!" BS.
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Old 09-29-2016, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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I don't believe every claim by those who are wanton fault finding skeptics of God \ and his Word the Bible as fact any more than the wanton fault finding skeptics of God don't believe every claim by those who believe God's Word. So I don't necessarily accept every propaganda claim like "most porn viewed in the US is in the Bible belt" .... nonsense.

Speaking of being free, that is what this OP is about. The good news that one can overcome the notion of popular secularism that sexual perversion \ immorality.
Found on Christianity Today

America's Bible Belt states indulge in more online porn than other less religious states | Christian News on Christian Today

Interesting article:

How Many Porn Addicts Are In Your Church

How Many Porn Addicts are in Your Church? - Pastors and Christian Leadership Resources

And I'm the sexually immoral one here. Right.
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Old 09-29-2016, 04:45 AM
 
Location: New England
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1 Corinthians 6:12 [ Sexual Immorality ]
“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial.
“I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything."

That is the good news when it comes to sexual immorality, God said it is not so powerful that it can't be mastered.

What is sexual immorality? God's Word defines it as
  • anything that is something which goes beyond a the natural creation of man \ woman who are married
And how can one be not mastered by sexual perversion \ immorality?
" ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says:
Repent! Turn from your idols and renounce all your detestable practices! ' " Ezekiel 14:6

" Submit yourselves, then, to God.
Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. " James 4:7

"No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind.
And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.
But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it. "
1 Corinthians 10:13
Get back to us when you have cleaned your own house up. For a man who repeatedly talks sin up rather the righteousness of God, I suspect you have a lot of **** to be set free from.
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