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Old 10-27-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Originally it was All Hallows Eve, the day before All Saints Day.

You know like Christmas Eve is the day before Christmas?

Besides which, you feel that way about Halloween, why don't you feel that way about Christmas? After all Christmas was borrowed from the pagans observation of the winter solstice and the first indication that the Sun was reborn. How come you don't object to Christmas being celebrated?

All in due time. A X-Mas post will be forthcoming......followed by the other pagan worship celebration of Ēastre or Ēostre....or as most know it; Easter!


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Old 10-27-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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Can you name what was celebrated on a New Moon by Christians that pagans happened to miss?
The only biblical feast that should be celebrated by Christians are those mentioned in God's word. So unless you are talking about one of those.....I have no clue.


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Old 10-27-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Gettysburg, PA
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If those were so adamant against Halloween really think about it and look at the history of things, they would not celebrate Christmas, they would not celebrate Easter, nor would they celebrate some of the other lesser holy days throughout the year which were adapted from pagan practices.

You're right: Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays. In no sense are they revealed as holy days in Scripture. I do not know the history of Halloween and in none of my posts did I claim to do so (going so far as to speculate that I probably would not be comfortable with the practice of it based on its origin alone, though I was meaning my vague understanding of the origin of it--though as of yet I know of no where in Scripture where God has instituted the commemoration of anything like Halloween).

The only day which God set aside to be holy is the Sabbath. No other day are we commanded to give Him worship the whole day. I would imagine wholesome traditions of men are permitted by Him, perhaps even encouraged (though I am not far along yet in my biblical studies to make a declarative statement of it). Yet as I have stated and provided evidence via personal experience, I do not consider Halloween a wholesome, godly tradition of man. My experience is that it is replete with sinfulness and that is the basis of my refraining from it. Certainly there are communities in which adults and children participate in the neighborly sharing of gifts on that day; unfortunately, the celebration of the day has been corrupted by the sinful activities which I have been a witness to. Therefore I will refrain from it.

And as Ecc12 mentioned, I'm sure there will be a lively discussion of Christmas and Easter in due season.
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:53 AM
 
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Do the kids of Christians that do not celebrate Easter, Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving, etc feel out of step with their peers in school?
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Do the kids of Christians that do not celebrate Easter, Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving, etc feel out of step with their peers in school?
These are the ones that are homeschooled, and then shipped off to a strict fundie religious based college. Then the kids graduate and go into the real world and can't for the life of themselves understand why they're ostracized by their peers.

It almost seems like a form of child abuse in a way.
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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These are the ones that are homeschooled, and then shipped off to a strict fundie religious based college. Then the kids graduate and go into the real world and can't for the life of themselves understand why they're ostracized by their peers.

It almost seems like a form of child abuse in a way.
I agree. I believe home-schooling, in most instances, inflicts a terrible handicap on children when it comes to dealing with the real world.
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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Yes. My kids will be begging for candy. I will also be handing it out. We have 60 people in town and people dont like snobs that think theyre too good to be part of the community.
You live in a town with only 60 people? Do you have your own zip code Pastor Vizio? Did you ever find that Oregon Chai Tea I posted you about? I was thinking of sending you some if you can't find it.
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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These are the ones that are home schooled, and then shipped off to a strict fundie religious based college. Then the kids graduate and go into the real world and can't for the life of themselves understand why they're ostracized by their peers.

It almost seems like a form of child abuse in a way.
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I agree. I believe home-schooling, in most instances, inflicts a terrible handicap on children when it comes to dealing with the real world.
I was an elementary school teacher before becoming assistant dean of education and interim provost for 3 months, LOL, at a public university. I have nothing but respect for home schooling families and the products they turn out. In fact, the university conducted 2 studies which became hallmark studies one on the positive academic effect, the other on the positive social effect, home schooling has.

It's a myth and misconception that home schoolers lag socially. Sadly, it continues to this day, perpetrated in large part by teacher's unions.

If you think the institution of organized religion has problems, try the institution of education.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I was an elementary school teacher before becoming assistant dean of education and interim provost for 3 months, LOL, at a public university. I have nothing but respect for home schooling families and the products they turn out. In fact, the university conducted 2 studies which became hallmark studies one on the positive academic effect, the other on the positive social effect, home schooling has.

It's a myth and misconception that home schoolers lag socially. Sadly, it continues to this day, perpetrated in large part by teacher's unions.

If you think the institution of organized religion has problems, try the institution of education.
I suspect you're talking about the USA.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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It's a myth and misconception that home schoolers lag socially.
My aim was not at homeschoolers just for homeschooling. It was more towards the fundamentally religious types that homeschool. Sadly, this group constitutes a large portion of the homeschooling crowd, because they don't want their children influenced by "things of the devil", such as most sciences.

It's not the homeschooling that makes them lag amongst their peers. It's because they have not been allowed to associate with children and young adults outside of a church and home environment. That is, assuming, that were still talking about parents who are so fundamental that they don't celebrate any normal American holidays. Even for many of this type that do celebrate holidays as other families do, it is still a rough assimilation sometimes.
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