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I believe the scripture say's "Ο Θεός μισεί αδερφές" which I believe means God does not approve of homosexuality.
We know God does Not approve of fornication [ Greek porneia' ], but what if a person can Not change their inclination ?
Researchers found male fish with female brains and concluded probably from too much estrogen in the fish water.
All single people are to refrain from fornication. Those who choose to follow Christianity must refrain from fornication.
1st Corinthians 6 vs 9-11 A.
Since we are nearing the threshold of Jesus' 1000-year kingdom reign over earth, then Jesus will undo all the troubles that Satan and Adam brought upon mankind.- Revelation 22 v 2; 21 vs 4,5
Actually the original Greek words arsenokoites and malakos don't actually make sense being translated as 'man and catamite' either. That was just another later interpretation.
What I find interesting is that the same verse (1 Corinthians 6:9-10) was used for centuries to condemn masturbators, not homosexuals.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon of the Bible:
759 avrsenokoi,thj
avrsenokoi,thj, avrsenokoitou, o` (a;rshn a male; koi,th a bed), one who lies with a male as with a female, a sodomite: 1 Cor. 6:9; 1 Tim. 1:10. (Anthol. 9, 686, 5; ecclesiastical writings.)*
Liddel and Scott Greek lexicon: 6008 avrsenokoi,thj
avrseno&koi,thj, (koi,th) lying with men, N.T.
Friberg Biblical Greek Lexicon: 3665 avrsenokoi,thj, ou, o` an adult male who practices sexual intercourse with another adult male or a boy homosexual, sodomite, pederast
It is clear and the words that make up a word do not always control the meaning of the combined word.Try:
"Make" to create
"Up" a direction and
"Makeup".
Now it is true many misuse words as you pointed out, but the basic meaning is a reference to homosexual sexual activity.
You don't believe rewriting marriage laws in order to suit a very small minority is forcing something on the other 98%?
Or by brainwashing our kids in the public school system and telling them that a deviant sexual behavior is good and moral?
I believe that this is where you are mistaken. No one is asking for marriage laws to be rewritten wholesale. They are simply asking that they be applied to every pair of consenting adults, regardless of your personal religious beliefs. As for teaching tolerance in schools, I think it's a bit unreasonable for public schools to limit their tolerance policies to conform to your personal beliefs. Other religions and belief systems exist, regardless of whether you agree with then or not. Why do you expect public schools to operate under your specific set of values?
Visio, I know you're trying to be the good conservative Christian Pastor but getting into the politics of it all, you are fighting a losing battle and I think deep down even you know how ridiculous your arguments are becoming...I personally think you should step away from the ultimately theocratic side of of this and focus on the "being called a bigot or gay hater just because you think the bible calls it sinful" side of this. You have at least a sporting chance on that end.
::Sigh:: It is NOT being forced on anybody. The simple truth is that the focus on our carnal appetites is not remotely spiritual. The Bible is to be interpreted spiritually . . . which in common parlance means "what is in our minds." The carnal appetites involved in our existence are NOT God's focus. That is why carnal thinking and carnal minds are specifically rejected when reading the Bible for spiritual guidance. It is what is in our minds that is God's concern.
Our lusts are not spiritual under ANY circumstances despite the rationalizations we have made to accommodate them via monogamous marriage, processed foods and the like. BUT our LOVE IS spiritual and is God's primary concern. There can be nothing done in love of one another that is sinful, period. Far too many of us are stiff-necked people stuck forever in our unavoidable carnality. It is such a struggle to get people to think and concern themselves with their spiritual development in "love of God and each other" as Christ instructed.
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Originally Posted by minidiaz
i agree with the sentiment but not with the method.
the reason there is so much confusion with regards the claim homosexuality is a immoral carnal appetite is because of the method you are endorsing.
there is no difference, and you cannot show the difference, between someones personal biases and spiritual interpretation.
objective evidence would put a stop to that...
I disagree that love of one another is an inappropriate method of discerning what is spiritual truth from carnal ignorance.
As for teaching tolerance in schools, I think it's a bit unreasonable for public schools to limit their tolerance policies to conform to your personal beliefs. Other religions and belief systems exist, regardless of whether you agree with then or not.
I am of the opinion that children should not be indoctrinated at public schools into any belief that isn't a verifiable fact.
Religion is like a mans private area, don't shove it down our children's throats and don't whip it out where it's not wanted.
well according to fred phelps he is showing gods love...go figure
And even the youngest child (not brainwashed by him) can discern the falsity of his belief. It is not difficult to discern what is love and what isn't.
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