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Moses said that if God would not remove the sin from sinners that he would rather be blotted out of the book of life.
Exo 32:32 And now if thou wilt forgive their sin, forgive it; and if not, blot me out of thy book, which thou hast written.
And for those who think they can't have that happen, it is made clear here
KJV Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
If one does not overcome, his name will be blotted out. Makes no sense without both options and is affirmation of EX 32:32.
And for those who think they can't have that happen, it is made clear here
KJV Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
If one does not overcome, his name will be blotted out. Makes no sense without both options and is affirmation of EX 32:32.
Thankfully, with Christ we shall ALL (Universally) overcome.
Thankfully, with Christ we shall ALL (Universally) overcome.
He said not all would listen and be saved. It is NOT a forced salvation, but a choice.
KJV Matt: 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. ...21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
He said not all would listen and be saved. It is NOT a forced salvation, but a choice.
KJV Matt: 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. ...21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
He knows far better than we do.
It's a forced salvation. Also, your not understanding Matthew 7:14. It says Few are FINDING It and not as few shall EVER Find it. It was said in present tense meaning at that time there were few finding it.
And for verses 22-23 they say nothing about the duration. It is understand that only a FEW are CHOSEN at this time. Just as there was only a few chosen in the Old Testament (The Levites). It didn't mean the rest of Israel was toss out.
Consider that Jesus came to destroy sin:
1Jn_3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
He destroys sinners by destroying sin. He doesn't toss out the baby with the bathwater.
Besides, Eternal Torment means sin is never destroyed. It is just a relocation plan that is not of the Lord's teaching.
Using these three options based on Gary Amirault's comments above and discussions on the forum I thought it would be interesting to see where people are currently at. Gary Amirault said he's been in all three groups over the years and said there are sincere believers in each.
I didn't check the multiple choice box, maybe some think more than one apply.
If "wicked" is defined as opposing the Natural Law of nature, the eternal punishment would be Extinction of the species in a second death, from which the individual members would never again appear in the realm of the god of the living:
Mark 12:27
He is not the Godof the dead, but the Godof the living:
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